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mckinney
02-02-2010, 04:01 PM
Was on this morning Seth and at about 9:55 am USA Central time 12:55 pm your time the server just went bump. I don't know what's going on. was talking and then I was not.:eek:

Hawk
02-02-2010, 06:42 PM
:wheelchair: Well, McKinney, guess it was you this time. See what I mean? I was not on this morning as usual 'cause I was feeling crappy and overslept.
:: sighs :: It is 12:40 CST USA and it is not loading. Seth is probably just getting up around now or not. LOL I think there is like 6 hours difference between him and us, but I don't know if it is forwward or backwards from us.

mckinney
02-02-2010, 07:24 PM
Time is 4:23 am (JST) on Wednesday, Feb 3, 2010 - Hiroshima, Hiroshima Prefecture, Japan They are ahead of us hawk.

mckinney
02-02-2010, 07:25 PM
I have a profile you may look at by the way hawk.

Hawk
02-02-2010, 07:45 PM
I have a profile you may look at by the way hawk.

:eek: I am impressed, McKinney. I love the hearse and the coffin bar. I may get one of those for myself, when I win the lottery, of course. That burn, brought back a memory I thought I had lost....funny how things like that happen, huh?

Seth: Have you ever thought about putting FQ on disc for say, PS or Puter game? Even for practice it would be fun.

Guess it is a day of Pogo for me then, Battleship and Zuma! :whistling:

mckinney
02-02-2010, 07:52 PM
I hear ya. If we can't get this server fixed, then we may be playing FQ on the Forums. LMAO! I'm sure Seth will find the bug and put it to REST! That's it Seth find the bug and put it 6 feet in the ground! If you do you just might get 1000 BP's. lol

Hawk
02-02-2010, 07:57 PM
I hear ya. If we can't get this server fixed, then we may be playing FQ on the Forums. LMAO! I'm sure Seth will find the bug and put it to REST! That's it Seth find the bug and put it 6 feet in the ground! If you do you just might get 1000 BP's. lol

Well, if I had the gold, I would hire those creepy twins to exterminate that bug! LOL

McKinney, you need to be on AIM!

mckinney
02-02-2010, 08:00 PM
What do you mean I need to be on the AIM?

Hawk
02-02-2010, 08:02 PM
What do you mean I need to be on the AIM?

AIM is a FREE chat server, like Yahoo Messenger. I have that one too. Just google AIM and download. We can chat anytime!

mckinney
02-02-2010, 08:05 PM
That sounds cool.

Hawk
02-02-2010, 08:06 PM
That sounds cool.


:cool: I am on right now, if you do download it. Add me as a buddy under: umeusfc2, then come one down!

mckinney
02-02-2010, 08:16 PM
I'm under the AIM as mck1funeral

Mister Brooks
02-02-2010, 08:22 PM
feck! I at least registered, but I lost a couple fights going in.

but I was surprised at how well I did with 720 BPs. I got the BP bonus for selling the exact amount in a customer's price range, and that was just the first round yesterday.

Today, however, it's the Monday thing all over again.

I hope it's not groundhog day yet.

Hawk
02-02-2010, 09:04 PM
feck! I at least registered, but I lost a couple fights going in.

but I was surprised at how well I did with 720 BPs. I got the BP bonus for selling the exact amount in a customer's price range, and that was just the first round yesterday.

Today, however, it's the Monday thing all over again.

I hope it's not groundhog day yet.

Yes, I saw that! Congrats on the perfect sale. I was hoping this game would be a good one for me since the last 2 were kinda crappy.
LOL, tomorrow is groundhog day here and today for Seth! Talk about "Quantum Leap", this could make a personc go crazy! :crazy:

Dorian1
02-02-2010, 09:41 PM
I can't even get into the Log in, it's like completely gone.

mckinney
02-02-2010, 10:12 PM
WE ARE BACK ON LADIES AND GENTS!!!:)

Seth
02-02-2010, 10:15 PM
Yeah, another huge crash happened...

Also, it came to my attention that the following were played by the same person:

Parkman
McGee
Grifty McGrift

I verified this and deleted McGee and McGrift and set parkmans luck to 0 and lowered his BP's a bit.

Multiple accounts are now allowed. If you're playing multis, stop now!

Mister Brooks
02-02-2010, 10:46 PM
Yes, I saw that! Congrats on the perfect sale. I was hoping this game would be a good one for me since the last 2 were kinda crappy.
LOL, tomorrow is groundhog day here and today for Seth! Talk about "Quantum Leap", this could make a personc go crazy! :crazy:

I must have transcended through time somehow...I've been building a lot of static a lot lately. I hope it wasn't 1.21 gigawatts.

Oh, and I stopped by the pub, but you weren't there Hawk

Mister Brooks
02-02-2010, 11:00 PM
Yeah, another huge crash happened...

Also, it came to my attention that the following were played by the same person:

Parkman
McGee
Grifty McGrift

I verified this and deleted McGee and McGrift and set parkmans luck to 0 and lowered his BP's a bit.

Multiple accounts are now allowed. If you're playing multis, stop now!

Could you be so kind as to send the chap a letter?

I'm not sure if you had seen it, but this is what he said in his announcement yesterday:


I haven't sent out any Yang's, Ms. Hawk a.k.a. McKinney. Your lies have been exposed again and again, and now you create duplicate accounts to send out multiple Yang's that are "signed" from other people (more lies). Or is it just a coincidence that you and McKinney both sent out Yang's signed "from McGee". FYI, if you're going to try to blame someone for a Yang, make sure it's not someone who already traded lucky sparrows with the target earlier in that day. BUSTED. Now quit wasting Announcement space with 3rd grade essay assignments advertising your "parlorS."

And FYI, I don't need to send bad luck to you. You are irrelevant. You are a non-factor in this game. Look at the math: even if I lost every luck event, I'd still be ahead of you. It's truly sad that you spend so much time lurking in the chat room and yet have learned SO LITTLE about how to play (yet so much about how to waste news space with your lame input).

In the announcements, Hawk had only so much as said to have had a Tiger, and asked who she "pissed off besides McGee/Parkman", before Parkman had unleashed his rage towards Hawk. Whatever happened in game, I cannot say.

Hawk
02-02-2010, 11:39 PM
OMG! I knew this was the same person with 3 personas, but I just could not prove it until I began to lurk almost constantly in the Cafe. I figured it out in last game where it was the same person only with Whammy/Noodles.
I only have one computer with one access. I am 64 percent blind and couldn't even keep up with 2 at the same time even if I had them side by side! My God!

Thank you, Seth for this confirmation of what I suspected in the first place. I don't know what he is talking about sending all those tigers to him, yes, I sent a couple to him, but dam, you can only send one item from Yang per day. LOL
Sending out tigers and even the twins to burn someone down is NOT cheating, it is playing the game strategically! GEEZE!

mckinney
02-03-2010, 12:01 AM
Where you at Hawk???

Parkman
02-04-2010, 02:24 PM
Yeah, another huge crash happened...

Also, it came to my attention that the following were played by the same person:

Parkman
McGee
Grifty McGrift

I verified this and deleted McGee and McGrift and set parkmans luck to 0 and lowered his BP's a bit.

Multiple accounts are now allowed. If you're playing multis, stop now!
What in God's name is this baloney?

I have 1 account. Period. Verify? What did you "verify?" Obviously you have been given bad information.

Regardless, this entire tournament has now been tainted by this accusation. I see I have 0 luck, and had points deleted. And now these accusations caused someone to set a fire.

Congrats, the game has been rigged.

The rules say one account per person. If you have suspicions, maybe you should look into them and ask. Because they don't say anything about friends playing. We don't even live together. We agreed to share luck, and if someone was close on tags for an upgrade to help each other out, but other than that there's no love lost. We even attack each other, which hurts each other, so how is that cheating.

Bottom line: this is bogus. If there was a problem, the administrator should've sent an email and it could've been cleared up.

Parkman
02-04-2010, 02:25 PM
If you really want to look into collusion, look at Hawk and McKinney. My friend tells me they are definitely a team and even send identically signed luck. But I guess if you spam the announcements enough, you're immune to suspicion. * rolleyes *

Seth
02-04-2010, 02:58 PM
I have 1 account. Period. Verify? What did you "verify?" Obviously you have been given bad information.

In the future I'd recommend not using the same very unique password on all accounts if you're trying to hide something.

The last thing I want to have to do is spend time policing FQ, so guys, please play it fairly, otherwise it sort of ruins it for everybody else. Well, almost as much as a random crash does... :sweatdrop:

Parkman
02-04-2010, 03:24 PM
In the future I'd recommend not using the same very unique password on all accounts if you're trying to hide something.

The last thing I want to have to do is spend time policing FQ, so guys, please play it fairly, otherwise it sort of ruins it for everybody else. Well, almost as much as a random crash does... :sweatdrop:Agreed about the fairness thing. I've been complaining about Hawk and her aliases and no one does anything. And yet I talk some friends into playing and am accused without a chance to defend myself.

Yes, we had the same password. "Very unique" ??? That's a good one, really, Seth. It was hardly creative and you know it. And it was for a good reason. Given the jobs of 2 of us, there's a chance we'll be called away and unable to get online for a few days. We set that up in that event so that someone could pay our turns for us.

Bottom line, Seth, is that you could've contacted me about this before booting 2 friends (one of whom has been playing this game longer than I have, and recommended it to me! he's been a fan of your game for probably 7 years!) and using God Mode to rob me of the lead.

If contacted any of us, we could've proven to you that we weren't one person. And if you wouldn't have been satisfied with that, we'd find another way to satisfy you (maybe 1 of us would play per tournament, or we could agree to something so you could be sure we wouldn't help each other, etc.).

Instead you acted rashly, and that's not cool. It's a free game, so whadda ya do? But this was pretty weak, man. You've basically made this a tainted tournament.

FearTheWhammy
02-04-2010, 03:48 PM
Seth,

I've been playing your game for many years now. I stood by it even after I lost hours of my time in a tournament to see myself get robbed by a bug that gave people MILLIONS of BP in a random event (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1898).

I stood by as people used shady tactics.

And I even invited friends to play and got them interested. We never cheated. Have you ever seen an accusation, outside of this tournament, about me? No. In fact, we often didn't play in the same tournaments and sometimes didn't even know each other's parlor names.

It was fun.

Some of us now have jobs that make it tough to predict if we'll be able to play through the tournament. So we had the same passwords. How is that cheating? You're more technically savvy than I am. I'm sure you can check to see where people are logging on from.

In this tournament, 3 of us started from day 1, and we were doing well. Jealousy breeds contempt and suspicion, I suppose. But if we were cheating, why would we attack each other? Why wouldn't we team up and take down the biggest threats? Either we're not very good cheaters, or we're just crazy people.

If we really wanted to cheat, I'm sure we could find a way. It seems half your tournaments have cheaters in them, and I guess that's what you get in a game that doesn't cost anything. But if we were that committed to cheating and, as you say, "hiding something," don't you think we WOULD have different passwords? Wouldn't we go through steps to be super sneaky?

I'm very disappointed, Seth. I've lost at least one tournament due to mistakes in your program, and probably others due to hacking and other people cheating, but have continued to support it. Now you accuse me and my friends like this.

Bad form, sir. Bad form.

FearTheWhammy
02-04-2010, 03:51 PM
Oh, and Parkman is right. Look at the logs from Day 2 or 3 (I can't check the newspaper since Seth is so politely blocking my access to the game completely).

McK got busted by the paper sending a Yang. Multiple Yangs arrived on the same day with the same custom message blaming "McGee" (my handle). I think there are screen shots of this, but I'm sure you can verify it anyway.

But go ahead and focus on the important thing: keeping this project alive so you can squeeze every dime out of it (hey, nothing wrong with making money) in some way, while treating your long time players like criminals.

Mister Brooks
02-04-2010, 05:13 PM
If you really want to look into collusion, look at Hawk and McKinney. My friend tells me they are definitely a team and even send identically signed luck. But I guess if you spam the announcements enough, you're immune to suspicion. * rolleyes *

What makes you think you're immune to suspicion acting out in the announcements page? Unless Hawk called you out in game, there was no need for that. I mean, it's a freaking Yang! I've suffered more than that.

Hawk doesn't have multiple accounts, so present actual evidence before you point them fingers. You're not at all above this.

Now, as for the multiple accounts, Seth had good reason to delete these accounts. If you and your friends were wise, you'd know about the rules. In fact, I know of games like this that actually have it as a ban-able offense for having multiple accounts logged from the same computer (same IP address).

The rules are for logging in with multiple accounts in the same location:
"FQ has advanced IP based security, it's pretty obvious when someone is playing more than one character from the same location, if a family member wants to play too you better clear it with the Admin first."

Maybe Seth didn't get the memo, or he really didn't get one.

FearTheWhammy
02-04-2010, 05:57 PM
What makes you think you're immune to suspicion acting out in the announcements page? Unless Hawk called you out in game, there was no need for that. I mean, it's a freaking Yang! I've suffered more than that.

Hawk doesn't have multiple accounts, so present actual evidence before you point them fingers. You're not at all above this.[/quote]I said Hawk should be looked into. At the very least, there's collusion between multiple people going on with Hawk, McK, etc. Hey, if that's not against Seth's interpretation of the rules, fine. Then reinstate my account and Kristy's, give us all our points and skills back, etc. All we did was help each other out once in a while, and we STILL attacked each other.


Now, as for the multiple accounts, Seth had good reason to delete these accounts. If you and your friends were wise, you'd know about the rules. In fact, I know of games like this that actually have it as a ban-able offense for having multiple accounts logged from the same computer (same IP address).

The rules are for logging in with multiple accounts in the same location:
"FQ has advanced IP based security, it's pretty obvious when someone is playing more than one character from the same location, if a family member wants to play too you better clear it with the Admin first."

Maybe Seth didn't get the memo, or he really didn't get one.I always love the forum know-it-all who "informs" you of stuff like this without having gotten the facts.

I know the rules. Parkman knows the rules. Grifty might not, but she didn't break them either. "If you were wise" you'd get the facts before telling people gibberish like "if you were wise." We enver used the same computer, same IP address, etc. Seth can check and verify this.

This is why I'm so peeved. It's this "well, these players used the same password, so they must be the same person" assumption, and Seth shot first and asked questions never.

To sum it up for Professor Brooks: we're different people, playing from different places, and we're not even related. If we played under the same IP address or were hacking or something, I'd understand the reaction and it would be our fault for not reading the rules. That didn't happen.

Mister Brooks
02-04-2010, 06:52 PM
Hawk doesn't have multiple accounts, so present actual evidence before you point them fingers. You're not at all above this.I said Hawk should be looked into. At the very least, there's collusion between multiple people going on with Hawk, McK, etc. Hey, if that's not against Seth's interpretation of the rules, fine. Then reinstate my account and Kristy's, give us all our points and skills back, etc. All we did was help each other out once in a while, and we STILL attacked each other.

I always love the forum know-it-all who "informs" you of stuff like this without having gotten the facts.

I know the rules. Parkman knows the rules. Grifty might not, but she didn't break them either. "If you were wise" you'd get the facts before telling people gibberish like "if you were wise." We enver used the same computer, same IP address, etc. Seth can check and verify this.

This is why I'm so peeved. It's this "well, these players used the same password, so they must be the same person" assumption, and Seth shot first and asked questions never.

To sum it up for Professor Brooks: we're different people, playing from different places, and we're not even related. If we played under the same IP address or were hacking or something, I'd understand the reaction and it would be our fault for not reading the rules. That didn't happen.

First of all, Whammy, that post was not directed towards you. I was speaking to Parkman, and unless you ARE Parkman, I would have quoted you. After all, Parkman was the one who accused Hawk of having multis as I quoted from the Announcements page.

AFAIK, Seth had his reasons for deleting the accounts. Speak to him. But from what I see, if you knew the rules so well, you would have followed that up by contacting Seth in cases where your accounts would be used in conjunction with another account. That means if you're setting up an account so that someone account-sits for 3 accounts while they were away, would that person be visiting the owner's individual computers in order to keep those accounts in their respective IPs?

It's not likely. But when they start using all those accounts on their own computer, those accounts get logged in the same IP, then it gets suspicious, and this was likely not explained to Seth ahead of time. Which is why I asked if he "got the memo", because I have doubts in whether that actually occurred, because as reasonable as he is he wouldn't have deleted those accounts if he knew that.

"If you were wise" meant, if you actually followed the rules, this wouldn't happen. I don't care if you know the rules. Following them is a different animal. For Parkman, I don't see anywhere where Seth is obligated to contact any of you for this situation. Did you contact him ahead of time? If not, that's grounds for a ban from the game, since in his judgment the rules were not followed. That's fair to me.

traekoth
02-04-2010, 06:59 PM
I am a long time FQ player (Thank you, Seth, for revitalizing this game....really missed it when it went 'dark' last year). I'd like to speak to some of the comments above, ask for a final ruling, and then submit that this discussion should be locked as I belive it's going to denegrate to a bunch of finger pointing and he said/she said type items:

First off...from the main game page...

Rules
One account per person
No abusive or racist language
No attempting to hack or screw with the server
Breaking a rule can get you banned.

FQ has advanced IP based security, it's pretty obvious when someone is playing more than one character from the same location, if a family member wants to play too you better clear it with the Admin first.

Rules subject to change. Games may be canceled or restarted without warning.

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I have 1 account. Period.




Cool...I'm sorry, then, that action has been taken against you. However, based on later statements, I believe you're still violating the '1 account rule' by letting others play your account (emphasis mine):




We agreed to share luck, and if someone was close on tags for an upgrade to help each other out, but other than that there's no love lost. We even attack each other, which hurts each other, so how is that cheating.




While may be not expressly against the rules, I consider this to be poor sportsmanship. If this were 'Team FQ', perhaps another story, but this does create an uneven playing ground. However, I'm willing to concede that this could be a tactic if it didn't unbalance game play.




We even attack each other, which hurts each other, so how is that cheating.




The winner gets 2% of your total BP...the loser only loses 1% and gets protection. If you're colluding on the attacks, everyone has a net gain with the added advantage of your parlor not being available to attack from outside the circle.




Yes, we had the same password. "Very unique" ??? That's a good one, really, Seth. It was hardly creative and you know it. And it was for a good reason. Given the jobs of 2 of us, there's a chance we'll be called away and unable to get online for a few days. We set that up in that event so that someone could pay our turns for us.




This would lead me to believe that you're playing more than one account, by your own admission. Who's to say that the original account holder may or may not have done something different had you been playing it.




Some of us now have jobs that make it tough to predict if we'll be able to play through the tournament. So we had the same passwords. How is that cheating?




I would have to infer from this statement that you're doing the same as above...allowing others to login and play your account if you can't play a particular day. I would say that this violates the multi-accounting rule.




In this tournament, 3 of us started from day 1, and we were doing well. But if we were cheating, why would we attack each other? Why wouldn't we team up and take down the biggest threats?




See my comment above on the collusion in attacks.




But go ahead and focus on the important thing: keeping this project alive so you can squeeze every dime out of it (hey, nothing wrong with making money) in some way, while treating your long time players like criminals.


This is just wrong...Seth offers FQ as a Free online game. My biggest fear is that this becomes too much of a burden and he shuts down FQ permanently. I really hope this doesn't turn into a 'few bad apples spoil the game' situation...

Finally....this is just a game. Something to do for fun as a diversion. I enjoy the challenge of being the best parlor...if I can do so with 'underhanded' tactics going on...so much the better. I'm glad this is being looked into. See you in the cemetary :)

FearTheWhammy
02-04-2010, 08:27 PM
This would lead me to believe that you're playing more than one account, by your own admission. Who's to say that the original account holder may or may not have done something different had you been playing it.


I would have to infer from this statement that you're doing the same as above...allowing others to login and play your account if you can't play a particular day. I would say that this violates the multi-accounting rule. Interesting argument. I don't know that I agree with it.

It's moot, though. As far as I know none of us ever logged on anyone else's account. If I'm wrong on this and Seth wants to point it out, he can and I guess THEN you could STRETCH that into saying it might violate the intent of the rule. But I highly doubt that happened.

Saying "the fact that someone else has your password, and never used it, proves you're violating some rule" is a bridge too far, friend.

Finally....this is just a game. Something to do for fun as a diversion. I enjoy the challenge of being the best parlor...if I can do so with 'underhanded' tactics going on...so much the better. I'm glad this is being looked into. See you in the cemetary :)
No, you won't. My account was wiped. I created a new one out of anger and named my parlor "Seth Screwed Me," and now I have access denied messages.

Mister Brooks
02-04-2010, 08:53 PM
If I'm wrong on this and Seth wants to point it out, he can and I guess THEN you could STRETCH that into saying it might violate the intent of the rule. But I highly doubt that happened.

Saying "the fact that someone else has your password, and never used it, proves you're violating some rule" is a bridge too far, friend.

So, the rule of one account per person is a bridge too far? Having someone else babysit your account means that more than 1 person is on the account, and when you plan to have that person also take care of the other accounts, then that person is dealing with more than 1 account. The rules don't say you can have 1 person handle multiple accounts, or have multiple people handle a shared account. It is 1 account per person.

If you knew weren't going to be around for long, then you can't just show up and decide to let someone else handle the game for you. Last round, I knew I wasn't going to be on FQ when it was running past new years because I was going to be away that time, and I sat out that whole round. The rules don't say anything else about accounts, but to have 1 account per person. Not a combination of 4:3, but 1:1. The last part of the rules state if a stated rule is violated, it constitutes a ban.


No, you won't. My account was wiped. I created a new one out of anger and named my parlor "Seth Screwed Me," and now I have access denied messages.

I saw that.

Hawk
02-05-2010, 03:36 PM
Ok, I am just now getting here, and WOW! Just WOW! What can I say. Yet again you have brought me up in conversation, whammy/parkman. You point fingers to me just to try and evade your own guilt. I have done nothing wrong here. Yet, you, Parkman/McGee/McGifty constantly accused me just like in last game as Whammy/Noodles and possibly even Glen Quagmire as it was these three in the last game that ALWAYS dissed me, attacked me in the cafe, accused me and called me illicit names. If Seth wants proof of that, I can back up what I say and some know that fact. I don't EVER accuse unless I can back up my words. Not only I saw what was going on, but there were others as well, as they commented to me about it in chats on and off the game. Furthermore, I was NOT the one that busted you nor got you busted, dude, so like I stated in the announcements, GET OVER IT!
This is just a game, I love this game, yes I have friends that play there that I have made there, but we are not on the same computer nor even in the same state! This is easily verifiable as any basic computer user/programmer/operator knows.
McK1 is a friend that I met in the game, Mister Brooks is an aquaintence there along with about a dozen or so others, but that don't mean we are cohursing with each other, and even if we were, SO WHAT? You are doing the same thing through admission of that fact, dude!
I am sure Seth is not ignorant when it comes to these techie things, after all, he created the game in the first place. Have YOU created any games? I have in college, so back off baby. It is NOT an easy thing to do.
I apologize for this being such a long rant, but WOW.
Thank you Seth for being so patient with the few that try and pretend this is some sort of WoW spin off, LOL.
And thanks to those who have actually taken up for me here without even knowing me very much except for what they see in the game. All you have to do is pay attention to things that "happen" and you will see for yourself.
Whammy, You are whining because you created another account with derrogatory remarks pointing directly at Seth, what did you expect would happen? I have no doubt, now, that it was YOU in the last game that created that "Hawk Sucks" and "Better Than Hawk" account and parlor. You (Whammy/Noodles) accused me of being that name just like you are doing with McK1 and others now in this game. I caught this 2 games ago and never said a word about it, only to you.
Got one question for you and your dual personalities, What the hell do you have against me that you have targeted me in so many games back to back? I have only been playing this game for a few months, this is my 8th game. If I am not such a threat to you, then why even bother targeting me? Again I ask, What did I do to deserve you most adamant attentions?
:confused:

mckinney
02-05-2010, 03:48 PM
Parkman! Shut your mouth! Learn how to talk to ladies! and KEEP MY DAMN NAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH, YOU DON'T KNOW ME SO DON'T TRASH TALK ME! YOUR THAT DAMN CHEATER HERE NOT ME OR HAWK. IT'S ALL YOU. IF I WAS THE OWNER OF THIS GAME YOUR ASS WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE GAME!

Dorian1
02-06-2010, 08:01 AM
Nice little conversation going on here. ;)

Parkman
02-06-2010, 02:03 PM
"leave me out of your fantasies" - Hawk
"keep my name out of your mouth" - McK

Right. These aren't two peas in a pod.

I'm disturbed that Seth hasn't responded to this issue. He's treating long-time customers like scum, accusing them of cheating, and it's pretty sad.

This tournament is a fraud. I'm out, what? 500 BP? More? And it snowballs as competitors like Shellieface and GlenQuagmire get luck and BP bonuses for being INSTALLED, by Seth, into higher places in the standings.

Pretty weak.

Mister Brooks
02-06-2010, 06:09 PM
Don't even put Quagmire into this. He's been fighting with some other guy in a "feud" (more like fraud argument that you guys are having), and he doesn't even have a lock, safe, or smoke detector!

Mister Brooks
02-07-2010, 06:29 AM
Now, how did Parkman get over 8,000 BPs????

Hawk
02-07-2010, 01:38 PM
Now, how did Parkman get over 8,000 BPs????

I agree, how does that happen? Especially this early in the game?

Parkman
02-07-2010, 04:28 PM
Now, how did Parkman get over 8,000 BPs????
Seriously? Are you kidding me? I should have around 9,000. I probably lost about 200 BP in luck events that I had to pass on in the days following Seth's interference, in addition to the BP he manually subtracted, fights I had to pass on because graves were taken, etc.

How did I get to 8,000? Good salesmanship. I certainly haven't been getting big points in fights (I've been attacking lowbies), and Seth arbitrarily setting my luck to 0 meant I wasn't going to get points in luck events. In fact, over the past two days (where I jumped back into first place), I think I only got 1 luck event and took the safe 10 BP instead of risking it.

I got it through good, skillful selling and strategy. I had 2 perfect sales and lots of doubled-limit Super Rich customers: do you want to allege that I cheated on them?

Seriously, people.

And I laugh at accusations from Ms. "I'm going to sit in the Cafe and spy all day on people's Yang choices, and make it impossible for people to attack me because I'm online, and then I'll post 15 lame announcements that a middle schooler wouldn't find amusing" Hawk. If there's anyone who's exploiting and violating the spirit of the rules, it's her. And if anyone is (at best) playing "Team SB" (and at worst is possibly the same person on two accounts) it's Hawk and McKinney.

Then again, frankly, they're so bad at this game that it really doesn't matter. But it still makes accusations from them laughable.

Mister Brooks
02-07-2010, 05:26 PM
I don't see how you could have had over 8 thou when Seth took away your BP cookies 5 days ago, and you were only the best seller yesterday with a little over 1,000 BPs.

Hawk
02-07-2010, 10:09 PM
And I laugh at accusations from Ms. "I'm going to sit in the Cafe and spy all day on people's Yang choices, and make it impossible for people to attack me because I'm online, and then I'll post 15 lame announcements that a middle schooler wouldn't find amusing" Hawk. If there's anyone who's exploiting and violating the spirit of the rules, it's her. And if anyone is (at best) playing "Team SB" (and at worst is possibly the same person on two accounts) it's Hawk and McKinney.

Then again, frankly, they're so bad at this game that it really doesn't matter. But it still makes accusations from them laughable.

You know what is laughable? You cannot prove anything because there is NOTHING to prove. I don't sit in the Cafe all day for one, and even if I did, so the hell what? If you know this about me then that only means that YOU are doing the same thing? As for the "announcements" I had no other players saying what you have said, in fact, they liked them. It was humorous and imaginative which just goes to show you have no sense of humor or imagination and need to LIGHTEN UP.
I have been there all day today, yes because my friend, McKinney is in critical condition from a semi hitting his truck this morning and I was talking to his assistant. Other times I am not. I log on, play and wait till others are done and we chat, log off go about my business then log back on during the day when others come on that I know and we do the same thing. Why is that a problem for you unless you think I may CATCH YOU doing something underhanded?
Sure I am not a very experienced player right now, because this is only my 8th game. I have never played this game before and frankly still learning things about it. What have you played since Seth put it out on the net? Are you some other BIG TIME player that NEVER loses? You keep tabs on me so closely you would think I had just been released from prison and you were my parole officer! GET A LIFE.
Oh and before you try and comment on me getting a life, I have one thank you very much. I may be disabled with 64 percent of my eyesight gone, but I have a real life. This computer is the only means of communication and entertainment I have for tv shows, movies, radio and FUNERAL QUEST, among other games.
Honestly, I believe Seth should have deleted your account along with the other two. The fact that he didn't is what I call foul ball. Be glad I am not the admin or it would have been done as well as isp block.
At this point in this stupid game I would not mind if Seth even completely reset the whole dam game!

Hawk
02-07-2010, 10:21 PM
Oh yea, ps
You know nothing about me sir, NOTHING. What? You afraid to log on this morning, in fear that I might attack you or something before you could have the chance to get your cronies to protect you? Afraid someone else may get the bp's that you so desperately wish to horde to stay on top? I could care less about you, Parkie. I just like playing and chatting with the friends I have made throughout this game. I don't make accusations that I cannot back up.

Parkman
02-10-2010, 03:37 PM
Since "Mister Brooks" decided to openly attack me on the announcements, I'll take the opportunity to respond.

First, if something really did happen to McKinney in real life, I send my condolences. Real life is much more important than FQ. Still, that doesn't change the issue. If I were in an accident so serious that I was unable to play a computer game, I doubt I'd be contacting someone else to log on for me. How would that conversation go? "Hey, Mr. Greer. I can't even get out of this bed. But I'm in contention for 30th place in this obscure, free online game. Here is my login info and password. Please go learn about the game, log on, and play my turns. I know I'm in critical condition and should be worried about my health, but this is REALLY important. Thanks, Daryl."

Second, "Mister Brooks" is displaying blatant hypocrisy and a double standard here. Let's assume something unfortunate really did happen. So, then the rules don't apply? Your criticism of McGee, Grifty and I (and Seth's rationale for cancelling their accounts and neutering mine) was based on the possibility that someone could "commandeer" (as you put it) our accounts in case of an emergency. And that doesn't even get to the fact that such "commandeering" NEVER EVEN TOOK PLACE!

So here's what we have. In column A, you have people who may, hypothetically, one day take over for each other if an emergency arises (I think being called upon as an emergency responder to save other people's lives qualifies as an "emergency," or do you dispute that also?). In column B, you have someone who claims an emergency has taken place, and that someone else will be playing their turns so they can, with a ton of luck, finish in the top 25?

In column A, you, "Mister Brooks," scream and yell that the spirit of the rule has been broken because of the POSSIBILITY of the "one person one account" rule being violated in the future -- even if the letter of the rule hasn't been broken, and support draconian and arbitrary interference in the game.

In column B, someone admits that they're violating the "one person one account" rule, and you send your thoughts and prayers on the mere unsubstantiated claim that someone is dealing with an emergency?

That, sir, is a double standard.

I'll conclude by saying that I have no problem with a third party logging in to play McK's turns, so long as there's no conflict of interest. What I have a problem with is that Seth, "Mister Brooks," and others stand here throwing out accusations of "cheating" and CHEER when people's skill and efforts and trashed with administrator interference when nothing actually violated the rules -- only the possibility of some ARGUABLE violation in the future was left open by sharing passwords; but then look the other way in McK's case.

What's good for the goose, is good for the gander, folks.

Sincerely,
"Mister" Parkman

Parkman
02-10-2010, 03:48 PM
I have been there all day today, yes because my friend, McKinney is in critical condition from a semi hitting his truck this morning and I was talking to his assistant. Other times I am not. I log on, play and wait till others are done and we chat, log off go about my business then log back on during the day when others come on that I know and we do the same thing. Why is that a problem for you unless you think I may CATCH YOU doing something underhanded? Right. Because before, you didn't hang out in the cafe all the time? Please. It's practically an exploit. I've seen you remain logged on for hours on end, when people cannot attack you and you can see every Yang transaction. You can see who is targeting who. More important is the fact that you avoid attacks while logged on. But fine. Go ahead. Obviously that advantage isn't helping you much.

Oh and before you try and comment on me getting a life, I have one thank you very much. I may be disabled with 64 percent of my eyesight gone, but I have a real life. This computer is the only means of communication and entertainment I have for tv shows, movies, radio and FUNERAL QUEST, among other games.I'm sorry to hear that.

I don't make accusations that I cannot back up.Umm...yes you do.

Honestly, I believe Seth should have deleted your account along with the other two. The fact that he didn't is what I call foul ball. Be glad I am not the admin or it would have been done as well as isp block.
At this point in this stupid game I would not mind if Seth even completely reset the whole dam game! Talk about hypocrisy. So, you cling to the "only means of communication and entertainment" you have, but screw other people. Screw the fact that they haven't done anything wrong. Screw the fact that some of them have supported this game for years (one of them since practically when it came out). They can all rot, right? This game is YOURS, not THEIRS! ::sigh::

How about you just play the game. You have no moral high ground, as you support "Greer" or whoever it is taking over for McK. I guess if McGee, Grifty or myself wouldn't have shared passwords in case of emergency, but then told someone else our password if we were called away on an emergency or deployed, and then that person posted a sob story on the announcements, it would have been OK?

As I said earlier, Seth jumped the gun and folks like you, Brooks, and McK all followed in tow. A simple email to any of us and we would've all contacted Seth to clear up any confusion and agree to any conditions he might set to ease his mind and everyone else's that the letter and spirit of the rules would be followed. But instead you folks call us "cheaters" for planning for possible emergencies but not acting on them, and McK a "victim" for (allegedly) suffering a personal tragedy and handing control of his account to someone else.

Mister Brooks
02-10-2010, 06:41 PM
Since "Mister Brooks" decided to openly attack me on the announcements, I'll take the opportunity to respond.

First, if something really did happen to McKinney in real life, I send my condolences. Real life is much more important than FQ. Still, that doesn't change the issue. If I were in an accident so serious that I was unable to play a computer game, I doubt I'd be contacting someone else to log on for me. How would that conversation go? "Hey, Mr. Greer. I can't even get out of this bed. But I'm in contention for 30th place in this obscure, free online game. Here is my login info and password. Please go learn about the game, log on, and play my turns. I know I'm in critical condition and should be worried about my health, but this is REALLY important. Thanks, Daryl."

Second, "Mister Brooks" is displaying blatant hypocrisy and a double standard here. Let's assume something unfortunate really did happen. So, then the rules don't apply? Your criticism of McGee, Grifty and I (and Seth's rationale for cancelling their accounts and neutering mine) was based on the possibility that someone could "commandeer" (as you put it) our accounts in case of an emergency. And that doesn't even get to the fact that such "commandeering" NEVER EVEN TOOK PLACE!

So here's what we have. In column A, you have people who may, hypothetically, one day take over for each other if an emergency arises (I think being called upon as an emergency responder to save other people's lives qualifies as an "emergency," or do you dispute that also?). In column B, you have someone who claims an emergency has taken place, and that someone else will be playing their turns so they can, with a ton of luck, finish in the top 25?

In column A, you, "Mister Brooks," scream and yell that the spirit of the rule has been broken because of the POSSIBILITY of the "one person one account" rule being violated in the future -- even if the letter of the rule hasn't been broken, and support draconian and arbitrary interference in the game.

In column B, someone admits that they're violating the "one person one account" rule, and you send your thoughts and prayers on the mere unsubstantiated claim that someone is dealing with an emergency?

That, sir, is a double standard.

I'll conclude by saying that I have no problem with a third party logging in to play McK's turns, so long as there's no conflict of interest. What I have a problem with is that Seth, "Mister Brooks," and others stand here throwing out accusations of "cheating" and CHEER when people's skill and efforts and trashed with administrator interference when nothing actually violated the rules -- only the possibility of some ARGUABLE violation in the future was left open by sharing passwords; but then look the other way in McK's case.

What's good for the goose, is good for the gander, folks.

Sincerely,
"Mister" Parkman

Reading comprehension FTW. There was no hypocrisy. I clearly stated that there was a difference between what you did with others as opposed to McKinney's real life accident. There was no "if" this happened. It really did happen, and he is recovering.

What Mr. Greer did for Mr McKinney was done as an emergency. The huge difference, is your blatant disregard for the rules as you PLANNED an arrangement to have someone take over your accounts (that's what "commandeering" means) while you were away. Mr. McKinney did not plan to have an accident or be absent from the game as a result of the accident, unless otherwise stated by the authorities. You, Parkman, Whammy and another party, all had shared passwords so that while you're absent (foresight in the fact you knew you were going to be away for some time), you know your accounts can stay on top of the game. Having shared passwords no longer prove the distinction of individual accounts, but that they had conspired in a way that can be interpreted as an event leading to a violation of the rules, or that the accounts were made from a single person.

Your situation never took place, because A, Seth caught the fact that the passwords were the same and for other reasons that justified the fact he deleted the accounts and took away your BPs. B, you also admitted that you knew that you were going to have a situation where you're going to be away, so you set it up so that someone else would take over as interim until your return, a situation that happens to be a direct violation of the rules.

Now, if none of the events happened to McKinney, then he must either be severely schizophrenic, or a superior actor, in which case, none of the rules were ever violated on his part. In giving him the benefit of the doubt on the seriousness of the nature of his condition, I would recommend you not be so insensitive. THAT, Parkman, is why I attacked you.

We and Seth are not obligated to email you of the situation, even as a courtesy. Since this is Seth's game, and he has control over these matters, he has the authority to manage your accounts without warning, so you have no power to dispute that. If you followed the rules, which says you can contact Seth when you're in the situation you knew you were going to be, none of this would have happened. It was YOU who had the obligation and responsibility to take care of the situation concerning matters of the game as the rules say, and you failed to do so.

Hawk
02-10-2010, 07:05 PM
Talk about hypocrisy. So, you cling to the "only means of communication and entertainment" you have, but screw other people. Screw the fact that they haven't done anything wrong. Screw the fact that some of them have supported this game for years (one of them since practically when it came out). They can all rot, right? This game is YOURS, not THEIRS! ::sigh::

Hypocrisy? Cling? Screw? If "they" have supported this game for years, even from the creation of this game, as you so say, then "they" should know better, one would think. No one owns this game but SETH. It is just on loan to us all.


How about you just play the game. You have no moral high ground, as you support "Greer" or whoever it is taking over for McK. I guess if McGee, Grifty or myself wouldn't have shared passwords in case of emergency, but then told someone else our password if we were called away on an emergency or deployed, and then that person posted a sob story on the announcements, it would have been OK?

You do not know what sort of "morals" I may have as you have not even taken the time to even talk civil to me nor try and get to know me. That is entirely two different scenarios, oh, but you knew that didn't you. Lame attempt at diversion.

As I said earlier, Seth jumped the gun and folks like you, Brooks, and McK all followed in tow. A simple email to any of us and we would've all contacted Seth to clear up any confusion and agree to any conditions he might set to ease his mind and everyone else's that the letter and spirit of the rules would be followed. But instead you folks call us "cheaters" for planning for possible emergencies but not acting on them, and McK a "victim" for (allegedly) suffering a personal tragedy and handing control of his account to someone else.

Seth can do as he pleases, this is HIS game after all. Oh right, simple email would have sufficed. "Cheaters" is such a timid word compared to what you "guys" have called me. Like for instance this very morning, how you kept yelling stupid accusations and insinuendos toward me from the, (what?) CAFE, where you were "hanging out", "watching", in a failed vain attempt to try and distract me from concentration on my game play? How fair that was and good sportsmanship. Or, what you said in the CAFE trying to goad me into arguing with you in front of a witness? Honestly. Keep it up, Parkie, you are showing your true colors here in front of everyone and the truth shall come out and triumph in the end.

Oh, yes, if you don't cheat, then why not explain to us all here how you rose back to top position when Seth wiped you out? That would be the only way to "clear up the confusion" everyone is talking about you. Oh, right, excellent salesmanship....gotcha! Inquiring minds would like to know.

FearTheWhammy
02-12-2010, 07:19 AM
Hey Mr. Brooks,

Reading comprehension FTW, my man. Agreed. So once you learn how to read (or comprehend), you might win an argument.

When did Parkman or myself say we PLANNED on being away? At least twice in that spin-cycle you call a forum post, you claimed that Parkman, Grifty and I planned to be away (paragraph 2, paragraph 3, and arguably paragraph 5 of your post). That isn't the case. We're not planning on handing anything off to anyone. But there's a chance with two of us that we could be called off on 72 hours notice. I don't expect that to happen, but it could. All three of us are also emergency responders and you never know when you could be needed. One of us is a firefighter. Same story.

You go on and accuse Parkman of being insensitive. That's showing that you're the true hypocrite here. You have no sensitivity or respect for the service of others. You argue this jackass line about how no one owes anyone the chance to explain. Fine. So go make bogus accusations about people like the moron you are.

You fail at life.

Hawk
02-12-2010, 09:09 AM
Hey Mr. Brooks,

Reading comprehension FTW, my man. Agreed. So once you learn how to read (or comprehend), you might win an argument.

When did Parkman or myself say we PLANNED on being away? At least twice in that spin-cycle you call a forum post, you claimed that Parkman, Grifty and I planned to be away (paragraph 2, paragraph 3, and arguably paragraph 5 of your post). That isn't the case. We're not planning on handing anything off to anyone. But there's a chance with two of us that we could be called off on 72 hours notice. I don't expect that to happen, but it could. All three of us are also emergency responders and you never know when you could be needed. One of us is a firefighter. Same story.

You go on and accuse Parkman of being insensitive. That's showing that you're the true hypocrite here. You have no sensitivity or respect for the service of others. You argue this jackass line about how no one owes anyone the chance to explain. Fine. So go make bogus accusations about people like the moron you are.

You fail at life.


Parkman, last paragraph last sentence: But instead you folks call us "cheaters" for planning for possible emergencies but not acting on them, and McK a "victim" for (allegedly) suffering a personal tragedy and handing control of his account to someone else.

Oh, ya, right, the same way you do me, uh-huh, gotcha!:rolleyes:
Talk about hypocrisey. That was a really nice thing for you to say about someone there, Mr. "I'm a first responder person", that someone FAILS AT LIFE! :eek:

Mister Brooks
02-12-2010, 09:18 AM
Hey Mr. Brooks,

Reading comprehension FTW, my man. Agreed. So once you learn how to read (or comprehend), you might win an argument.

When did Parkman or myself say we PLANNED on being away? At least twice in that spin-cycle you call a forum post, you claimed that Parkman, Grifty and I planned to be away (paragraph 2, paragraph 3, and arguably paragraph 5 of your post). That isn't the case. We're not planning on handing anything off to anyone. But there's a chance with two of us that we could be called off on 72 hours notice. I don't expect that to happen, but it could. All three of us are also emergency responders and you never know when you could be needed. One of us is a firefighter. Same story.

You go on and accuse Parkman of being insensitive. That's showing that you're the true hypocrite here. You have no sensitivity or respect for the service of others. You argue this jackass line about how no one owes anyone the chance to explain. Fine. So go make bogus accusations about people like the moron you are.

You fail at life.


UMMM...No. I see you need to read better what you're saying in your own posts, especially if you're being on Parkman's side of his story, like....


When did Parkman or myself say we PLANNED on being away? At least twice in that spin-cycle you call a forum post, you claimed that Parkman, Grifty and I planned to be away (paragraph 2, paragraph 3, and arguably paragraph 5 of your post). That isn't the case. We're not planning on handing anything off to anyone. But there's a chance with two of us that we could be called off on 72 hours notice. I don't expect that to happen, but it could. All three of us are also emergency responders and you never know when you could be needed. One of us is a firefighter. Same story.

Yet, in the past page, Parkman said:


Yes, we had the same password. "Very unique" ??? That's a good one, really, Seth. It was hardly creative and you know it. And it was for a good reason. Given the jobs of 2 of us, there's a chance we'll be called away and unable to get online for a few days. We set that up in that event so that someone could pay our turns for us.

In what part of that does not directly imply prior arrangement in such an event to happen? I find it hard to believe that you would do this without intent to have someone occupy your accounts. Actually, the fact you knew such an event could happen is foresight. So you prepared to do something, that actually has an unfair advantage over others letting someone play with 3 accounts when the rules state only 1 account per person. The rest of us are following the rules.

Parkman was being insensitive to the event - he QUESTIONED McKinney's condition and wildly exaggerated the circumstances to ridicule. As emergency responders and firemen, you should know that is unprofessional to treat a victim with that kind of language and tone. It is unacceptable and intolerable with respect to other players. It's poor conduct to treat a fallen comrade this way.

It doesn't matter after the fact that Seth deleted those accounts. He was not informed of the situation between those accounts, so he had every reason to do so. It is his call. Not only did you explain that you all had the same passwords because of your awareness of emergencies you're going to be responsible for because of your commitment, that plan would be out of the window for the fact it would break the rules.

It doesn't matter if it didn't happen. It matters the fact that it could happen, and you took steps to allow it to happen, and allow rule breaking without explaining that to Seth. It doesn't matter now if you explained it to him. You had an opportunity to email Seth your explanation before taking action for the eventual emergency as the rules allow you to. Seth would have been reasonable and allowed this if you had followed through, but you didn't. You also said you knew the rules; your failure to email Seth of your situation nullifies any reparations you would have had for what Seth did.

mckinney
02-12-2010, 03:50 PM
I want to thank everyone for your support with Mr. McKinney. He is very thankful, even Mr. Parkman. However Mr. McKinney informed me that this game was a relaxing point for him and that he had a lot of friends on this game, that he did not want them to wonder where he was, because he did not play in the time that he has been gone. That is why Mr. McKinney had me take his place.

I will tell you all this. At some point in our lives weather we are gone for a week or a lifetime we will have someone to replace us.

For example: If Mr. McKinney were to die today. I as assistant funeral director would have to take his place as head funeral director, until his family did something with the funeral home.

So you see Mr. Parkman even in your life, when you die you too will be replaced by someone at you place of business. Someone will take your job, your car, your wife or girlfriend, your home, or whatever else you have. Some will replace you.

For the ones in this forum that have the hearts and the understanding of what I'm taking about great. For you see I know for a fact that Mr. McKinney has only ONE ACCOUNT IN THIS FUNERAL QUEST GAME. The make of this game can check and make sure that Mr. McKinney in fact does not have two accounts.

You see Mr. Parkman, Mr. McKinney and I have played the death game for a lot of years. And no matter what happens in live, there will always be a funeral director that will take care of you.

We all die, we all get in bad accidents, and no matter what happens in life we all get replaced by someone.

My only words to you Mr. Parkman is grow up and stop acting like a baby with me (Mr. Jamie Greer) taking over for a short time while Mr. McKinney is out of the office! It happens every time Mr. McKinney leaves the office, I HAVE TO TAKE OVER FOR HIM EVERYTIME HE IS GONE! Mr. Parkman if you have no idea that even when you leave this world. POINT BLANK! YOU WILL BE REPLACED!

STOP ACTING LIKE A BABY AND GET OVER IT MR. PARKMAN! MR MCKINNEY IS HERE TO STAY.

It's a bad thing to make someone with money and attorneys very mad Mr. Parkman. I have known Mr. McKinney and his family for a lot of years; they all don't take well to people getting in their way. However just the same will Mr. Parkman will die at some point in your life and you too will be replaced just like the rest of us.

Eli
02-12-2010, 08:26 PM
Am I missing something? This is just a game . . . right? A great game but still only a game.

FearTheWhammy
02-24-2010, 09:45 AM
"Mr. McKinney" has a family? They let defectives like that breed? Scary.

Brooks, you're a hypocrite plain and simple.

Which is it, Brooks? Is it ok to allow someone else to play your account or isn't it? That was your reason for saying I should be banned. If it's not ok, quit defending McKinney. The rules don't say "unless there's a good reason." We had a damn good reason, and we never even used it. We just planned for a rainy day. But apparently planning for a potential situation, without actually breaking a rule, isn't ok in your book. But breaking the rule on its face is ok if it's.....what? someone you like? a sad story? I'm interested in hearing your weasely, hypocrite answer.

You twist everything around into something it's not, and then accuse me of being wrong for pointing that out. Your logic is something else. By that logic, if you take out a life insurance policy you must be planning on faking your own death to defraud the insurance company. Because, I mean, who would ever PLAN on ANYTHING?

Mister Brooks
02-24-2010, 05:57 PM
"Mr. McKinney" has a family? They let defectives like that breed? Scary.

Brooks, you're a hypocrite plain and simple.

Which is it, Brooks? Is it ok to allow someone else to play your account or isn't it? That was your reason for saying I should be banned. If it's not ok, quit defending McKinney. The rules don't say "unless there's a good reason." We had a damn good reason, and we never even used it. We just planned for a rainy day. But apparently planning for a potential situation, without actually breaking a rule, isn't ok in your book. But breaking the rule on its face is ok if it's.....what? someone you like? a sad story? I'm interested in hearing your weasely, hypocrite answer.

You twist everything around into something it's not, and then accuse me of being wrong for pointing that out. Your logic is something else. By that logic, if you take out a life insurance policy you must be planning on faking your own death to defraud the insurance company. Because, I mean, who would ever PLAN on ANYTHING?

Again, when you acted on planning for someone else to control your account, the fact alone of intending to have someone else control your account is against the rules. Now you used the "excuse" of emergency to justify that intent. Fact is, if you had a concern or excuse for it, you could have contacted Seth, WHICH YOU DID NOT DO. You didn't have to break a rule, but Seth is the boss, and he has his say on it whether it breaks the rules or not. He did find, that the actions you took were suspicious, and that made it possible for rules to be broken. He did not want to open those scrolls.

McKinney suffered unfortunate circumstances. He happens to be a real funeral director, and happens to have an assistant. The game imitates real life, and Mr. Greer was the perfect individual to manage his duties as a temporary funeral director in McKinney's absence. It's a no-brainer Greer can step in, just like in real life.

Suppose your boss was out sick and couldn't come to work and you had no one to lead the team. Not only is THAT silly, but your boss wouldn't be stupid to forget to ask someone to take his place for a day or so temporarily. Is it unfair that your boss would choose someone to manage the team when they were out?

Besides, Mr. Greer stepped in ex post facto. It was already after the emergency occurred, and that more than enough validates the reason (it was announced several times in game and the forums, and I'm sure Seth also got an email from Greer or McKinney). You, however, planned for something before it happened, but at the present time, no such emergency existed.

Also, you gave away yourselves to suspicious activity, without accompanying an explanation beforehand (hey is it unfair cops catch you for suspicious activity?). Since you knew the rules, you should have already known the risk of violating the rules. Seth had no idea why you guys were doing this at the time, because he was not informed ahead of time formally. Formally that is, according to his system and rules which state that the process of giving him this information for concerns of rule violations should have been emailed to him directly. You failed to do so. Your argument of hypocrisy don't hold water. Seth already made his judgment which he is not obligated to undo and he wasn't wrong in doing it. He would have been more lenient had people followed the process as his rules state clearly, but your argument brings you no where near being as innocent as the others you conspired with for your little emergency that you hadn't told anyone else about :ninja:.

mckinney
02-25-2010, 12:55 AM
I would like Fear The Wammy to come to my office and have a talk with me. I understand that you have a problem with my assistant funeral director taking my place in the game? I'm not saying your dumb son, but I will ask "where is your common sense?" In any business you have a boss and you have someone that is under the boss. It's a pecking order son. That is what work life is. If you have a problem with Mr. Greer taking my place, then you should have contacted Seth.
My questions to you are...

Did you contact Seth?
If you did not contact Seth why are you still concerned about it?


Answer me that.

Even in your job someone manages someone else. I said it once and I'll say it again. If your boss is gone, more than likely someone will take his place to manage you and your performance in the work place.

Last thing I will say. Son give it up, your beatin a dead horse!