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Perry Steven
08-17-2016, 10:27 AM
Recently, I have been hearing and reading a lot of news of these social justice warriors, and they are absolute lunatics! Curiously, they seem to be very prominent in the West despite their "America-Is-A-Load-Of-Rubbish" demonstrations. They are promoting all sorts of lunacy like comprising the rights of women to allow transgender men who identify as women to enter women's toilets (which frighteningly has been made law in a few states in the USA), that anyone who questions feminists should be thrown into jail, people who criticise or have concern for the obese should be arrested because it's a hate-crime to point their weight out, and also a whole list of made up genders which is ludicrous. In fact, they are even saying that pedophilia should be considered a lifestyle choice and that biological genders and logic are constructs of the patriarchy that are designed to keep young people from experiencing life (reaction: WHAT?!). Some universities are even pushing the rule that all students should use gender neutral pronouns e.g. "ze", otherwise they would be kicked out of the university or arrested for hate crimes. This is really crazy what the world is turning into.

The major problems I have with this, other than what is obviously wrong with the above, is that it has completely destroyed the concept of having a balanced opinion and has succeeded in giving socialism a really bad name. All SJWs say that they are socialists/communists, but the truth is that they are actually fascists! Comprising the rights of others to serve a percentage of the population, which in this case is the supersnowflake generation, is fascism, it's not socialism! And coming back to the previous point, if anyone wants to criticise the USA for invading the Middle East, people would swarm on that person and call him a politically correct nutter even though his/her points may be valid. And for people like me who hate the USA because of personal reasons (e.g. the majority of the population there seem to be aggressive cut-throats who have an air of self-righteousness, and are schizophrenic on their views of other peoples from around the world on being terrorists) many would think of us as being SJWs that have hollow reasons and so we are better left ignored. So, lets give a round of applause to the social justice warriors for ruining and putting people off the ideology of socialism, making it impossible to have a balanced discussion that sees both side of the coin (e.g. while the Western powers are entirely responsible for the destruction of certain Arabic countries, the Arab refugees are not entirely devoid of fault either as they have behaved most obscenely in the European countries that have accepted them as they have acted terribly in public around women and have committed hundreds of rape cases and also stabbings of men who tried to protect women from this harassment), giving an excuse for people to indulge in their overtly-politically-correct views and making every comment aimed at women, transgenders and etc... no matter whether good, neutral or bad look like a threat as well as further increasing the prominence of trashy contemporary art.

Admittedly, I fell into this political correctness trap a few times. But this is going overboard. The scary thing about this is that laws are actually being passed based on what SJWs want. For example, in some states of the US it is now considered a hate crime to say that there are only two biological genders or that men have no rights to say that they are women. You can even be thrown into jail for not feeling comfortable around gays.

Tre
08-17-2016, 02:46 PM
People are becoming weak because of liberals and democrats. I don't agree with the religious side of the Republicans, but I side with them more because
Hillary and her followers are cry-babies

peck
08-18-2016, 03:44 AM
For example, in some states of the US it is now considered a hate crime to say that there are only two biological genders or that men have no rights to say that they are women. You can even be thrown into jail for not feeling comfortable around gays.

Prove it. I have not seen or heard of such laws.

Crazy people have been around forever. They just find new things to fight for each generation.

I feel that most of the crazy people in the US are brought out by political events. There is not one sane person in any political rally except the politician.

Perry Steven
08-18-2016, 08:45 AM
Prove it. I have not seen or heard of such laws.

Crazy people have been around forever. They just find new things to fight for each generation.

I feel that most of the crazy people in the US are brought out by political events. There is not one sane person in any political rally except the politician.

Before reading through the articles, be warned that a few of them contain mature content. If you want to remain family-friendly, then please do not click on the links.

Sure thing, here is some proof:

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/27212/
It's ludicrous that the police would get involved in such case. In any normal country, the police would say that this is a waste of their time.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-obama-just-made-massive-move-transgender-bathrooms/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/11/washington-state-illegal-to-ask-transgenders-if-theyre-transgender/

I am finding it tricky to find articles on the crazy hate crime laws involving homosexuals on the internet, but I have found this:

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/americas-future-canadian-man-faces-jail-time-disagreeing-feminists
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/25/u-n-womens-group-calls-for-web-censorship/

http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/pedophilia-the-next-sexual-rights-revolution/
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/08/24/mental-health-group-looks-to-remove-stigma-from-pedophilia.html

Then there is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_acceptance_movement
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9297496/Calling-someone-fatty-could-become-a-hate-crime.html
This is also quite insane as it's not healthy to be fat. There are so many health problems associated with being obese. Although it's bad to have people bullied because of their weight, this political correctness is taken so far that you can be arrested for the slightest concern over obesity.

ninjyninja
08-18-2016, 01:54 PM
why are we talking about this on GROWTOPIA forums?

peck
08-18-2016, 05:39 PM
Before reading through the articles, be warned that a few of them contain mature content. If you want to remain family-friendly, then please do not click on the links.

Sure thing, here is some proof:

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/27212/
It's ludicrous that the police would get involved in such case. In any normal country, the police would say that this is a waste of their time.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-obama-just-made-massive-move-transgender-bathrooms/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/11/washington-state-illegal-to-ask-transgenders-if-theyre-transgender/

I am finding it tricky to find articles on the crazy hate crime laws involving homosexuals on the internet, but I have found this:

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/americas-future-canadian-man-faces-jail-time-disagreeing-feminists
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/25/u-n-womens-group-calls-for-web-censorship/

http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/pedophilia-the-next-sexual-rights-revolution/
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/08/24/mental-health-group-looks-to-remove-stigma-from-pedophilia.html

Then there is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_acceptance_movement
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9297496/Calling-someone-fatty-could-become-a-hate-crime.html
This is also quite insane as it's not healthy to be fat. There are so many health problems associated with being obese. Although it's bad to have people bullied because of their weight, this political correctness is taken so far that you can be arrested for the slightest concern over obesity.

I don't deny these things happened. I deny that there is actual legality supporting that saying that there are only two genders is illegal.

That article you gave is one feminist calling a hate crime on people for trashing their ads and being "hateful". Of course police are required to come and judge, but the situation isnt revolving someone saying outloud "there are two genders" and a feminist calling out to police and having him arrested. Though the obvious intention is to punish the people for believing there are only two genders, that is what police are also investigating because they are legally obligated to investigate in any "hate crime".

The same goes for the obesity case, law isnt supporting that saying obesity is bad, but it does support that if an obese person feels triggered, they have right to court.

Everyone has a right to court over silly things, they may not win, but if someone does something in anger, that will be the basis of court, not beliefs or opinions like you make it out to be.

Tldr: You wont get in trouble for saying there are two genders. You will get in trouble if you start harassing people who believe that there are more than two genders.
(but it goes both ways, if they harass you, you can take them to court, but harassment is something very difficult to win and is a waste of time for both oppositions)

Juanma206
08-19-2016, 07:30 AM
why are we talking about this on GROWTOPIA forums?

Maybe because 1. This is the tavern and 2. These aren't the Growtopia Forums anymore?






get out

OhMyMoistness!
08-19-2016, 11:22 AM
People have the right to identify as a asexual agender alien from outer space, and you have the right to criticise.

Why can't we just leave it like that?

Perry Steven
08-21-2016, 01:31 AM
People have the right to identify as a asexual agender alien from outer space, and you have the right to criticise.

Why can't we just leave it like that?

The problem with that is many of those people want everything to be handed to them on a plate. They want laws to be made that allow them to enter whatever toilets they please and/or they want special toilets to be made specifically for them, and if anyone calls this ludicrous they say that person is being a homophobe or whatever and that person should be charged with a hate crime. Yeah sure, everyone has a right to identify as whatever they wish, but the problem is that they then push their own wacko ideas on other people to accept.

OhMyMoistness!
08-21-2016, 12:43 PM
The problem with that is many of those people want everything to be handed to them on a plate. They want laws to be made that allow them to enter whatever toilets they please and/or they want special toilets to be made specifically for them, and if anyone calls this ludicrous they say that person is being a homophobe or whatever and that person should be charged with a hate crime. Yeah sure, everyone has a right to identify as whatever they wish, but the problem is that they then push their own wacko ideas on other people to accept.

I really don't see how a person being able to pee is "wacko", unless your talking about pedophilia in which case pffft, cisgender's are as much a pedophile threat as transgenders look here (http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/05/05/comprehensive-guide-debunked-bathroom-predator-myth/210200) you want to see more about the "predator myth". In the UK and other countries there are even unisex bathroom's.

Perry Steven
08-22-2016, 01:13 AM
I really don't see how a person being able to pee is "wacko", unless your talking about pedophilia in which case pffft, cisgender's are as much a pedophile threat as transgenders look here (http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/05/05/comprehensive-guide-debunked-bathroom-predator-myth/210200) you want to see more about the "predator myth". In the UK and other countries there are even unisex bathroom's.

I'm not saying that a person being able to pee is wacko, I don't know whether I made my point clear or not but what I'm saying is that it's wacko that many of these people who create these artificial genders want their own special toilets, and others who say that this is crazy are called names by such people and are accused of committing a hate crime.

And of course some countries have unisex bathrooms, but that's because of the culture. Just like how you can't force democracy onto countries who don't want to implement it, you can't force other people to accept these artificial genders such as demigirl, demiboy, transgender and so on.

I agree that straight people can be as much a pedophile as transgenders, but I don't know whether the predator myth is really a myth. But even if it is truly a myth, I would say that neither the state nor anyone has any right to allow laws where transgender men are allowed to enter women's toilets. If women feel uncomfortable with such an idea, they have the right to not accept it.

The whole list of new genders (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/NYC-releases-gender-list/2016/06/01/id/731809/) that have been created over the past decade is at best ludicrous. No one should have to be extra sensitive because they might offend someone of a "non-traditional" sexual preference, no one should be forced to use gender-neutral pronouns and state money should not be used to build certain gender-oriented toilets nor to pass laws that compromise the rights of others in favour of these genders. If someone wants to be a transgender or whatever then fine, but such people do not have a right to go demanding things from others unless the majority agrees to it.

Bob Will
09-22-2016, 05:56 AM
I mean there are two genders. Just use the family bathroom or the gender you were born with. California is a state set to fail. You can not even carry a loaded weapon.

KillerXD
09-23-2016, 01:47 PM
The regressive left is no better then the religious nuts of the regressive right. They reject what is proven many times to be true in favor of their own egos and even worse censor or attempt to censor constructive critizism.

|ThyLuigi|
10-01-2016, 08:27 PM
I mean there are two genders. Just use the family bathroom or the gender you were born with. California is a state set to fail. You can not even carry a loaded weapon.
Ah yes, California, the world's 8th biggest economy and home of Silicon Valley. What a failing state.

Bob Will
10-02-2016, 11:01 PM
Ah yes, California, the world's 8th biggest economy and home of Silicon Valley. What a failing state.

State full of people who can't figure out how to end a drought

|ThyLuigi|
10-08-2016, 07:41 AM
State full of people who can't figure out how to end a drought
I suppose Florida is bad because it can't avoid hurricanes.

Anyway, there was a program back in the 60's that would pump water into the desert to protect from future droughts, however the president at the time was shot in the head while in Texas, and never had it passed. It would take decades to create it, so it's now too late to solve the current problem. If you've got a solution, I'd recommend sending a letter to the current representatives of California.

Bob Will
10-08-2016, 09:50 PM
I suppose Florida is bad because it can't avoid hurricanes.

Anyway, there was a program back in the 60's that would pump water into the desert to protect from future droughts, however the president at the time was shot in the head while in Texas, and never had it passed. It would take decades to create it, so it's now too late to solve the current problem. If you've got a solution, I'd recommend sending a letter to the current representatives of California.

It's not cost afective, but if we created roads, sidewalks, and streets that could reflect heat, rather than absorb it, Places like where I live in Arizona, and California could benefit from this. The droughts are caused by our roads and buildings that absorb so much heat that it causes water to fall outside the area where needed. The drought was more of a man made issue, rather than an actual enviormental issue.

|ThyLuigi|
10-11-2016, 01:43 AM
It's not cost afective, but if we created roads, sidewalks, and streets that could reflect heat, rather than absorb it, Places like where I live in Arizona, and California could benefit from this. The droughts are caused by our roads and buildings that absorb so much heat that it causes water to fall outside the area where needed. The drought was more of a man made issue, rather than an actual enviormental issue.
Yes — but the questions of what you do with all these roads you've already built, how much taxes you'll need to raise to fund this, and whether it is the most viable solution all arise. Even with this solution, these states are in America's desert, not having a ton of water isn't surprising, but growing population is also using a large amount of resources. California is the United States' most populous state, it grapples with a lot of problems having such a population even outside of resources. This leads me to think the problem is caused by a large population in an environment that isn't perfectly suited for it; a combination of natural and artificial factors.

Bob Will
10-11-2016, 09:50 PM
Yes — but the questions of what you do with all these roads you've already built, how much taxes you'll need to raise to fund this, and whether it is the most viable solution all arise. Even with this solution, these states are in America's desert, not having a ton of water isn't surprising, but growing population is also using a large amount of resources. California is the United States' most populous state, it grapples with a lot of problems having such a population even outside of resources. This leads me to think the problem is caused by a large population in an environment that isn't perfectly suited for it; a combination of natural and artificial factors.
Living in Arizona, I know the issues of a drought, Arizona is very close to dangerous low level waters. Even our monsoons are dissipating because they can't get into our valley. Arizona's main source of water reclamation, is dissapating because of an increase in heavy industrial materials that absorb heat. We need a way to reflect all this heat. Starting with roads and freeways is the only viable option we honestly have. Then we have their redicuous gun laws, that honestly do nothing, who know, maybe the drought is all because of yellowstone ( Mean that part to be funny ;))
Either way voting for Trump.

|ThyLuigi|
10-15-2016, 03:56 PM
Living in Arizona, I know the issues of a drought, Arizona is very close to dangerous low level waters. Even our monsoons are dissipating because they can't get into our valley. Arizona's main source of water reclamation, is dissapating because of an increase in heavy industrial materials that absorb heat. We need a way to reflect all this heat. Starting with roads and freeways is the only viable option we honestly have. Then we have their redicuous gun laws, that honestly do nothing, who know, maybe the drought is all because of yellowstone ( Mean that part to be funny ;))
Either way voting for Trump.
The gun laws have a root in racism — the story is basically that back in the 50's (or maybe the 60's?), the Black Panthers peacefully protested the state house. Naturally, because Black Panthers always carried around guns, the legislators created very heavy gun laws. These laws were then doubled down on in the proceeding decades, a famous example being Ronald Reagan when he was their governor. The racist reasons are now replaced with fear of guns.

Anyway, Trump can't do anything for California or Arizona's droughts, they're state issues that can only be fixed from within the state. You should vote for those local representatives to fix the problems.

Bob Will
10-15-2016, 09:10 PM
The gun laws have a root in racism — the story is basically that back in the 50's (or maybe the 60's?), the Black Panthers peacefully protested the state house. Naturally, because Black Panthers always carried around guns, the legislators created very heavy gun laws. These laws were then doubled down on in the proceeding decades, a famous example being Ronald Reagan when he was their governor. The racist reasons are now replaced with fear of guns.

Anyway, Trump can't do anything for California or Arizona's droughts, they're state issues that can only be fixed from within the state. You should vote for those local representatives to fix the problems.
Imagine how bad the world is going to be in 2030, when we are predicted to hit our oil peak
And it doesnt matter how you try to impede gun purchases, or how many restrictions you make. The people you dont want to have guns, will always find a way to get then

|ThyLuigi|
10-15-2016, 10:25 PM
Imagine how bad the world is going to be in 2030, when we are predicted to hit our oil peak
And it doesnt matter how you try to impede gun purchases, or how many restrictions you make. The people you dont want to have guns, will always find a way to get then
I disagree on your second point — it's just that the culture around guns in the US and the number of guns makes gun laws' effect minimal, this would be different in countries that have a different perception of guns and a smaller amount of them.