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lolgal96
02-10-2016, 11:26 AM
i want sanders to win. honestly the best candidate out of the three.

lolgal96
02-10-2016, 11:28 AM
Donald trump


I want to watch him build a giant wall and make people pay for it

he's a republican though

Trolled
02-10-2016, 11:37 AM
Sanders. Maybe Pss I vote wrongly. or did I?


Check out this web http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/compare/35-40/Bernie-Sanders-vs-Hillary-Clinton

But Sanders is jews. Not to be a hater, but haters gonna hate.

genpasaporte922
02-10-2016, 12:30 PM
I'd prefer Clinton.

No hate, please.

abt79
02-10-2016, 12:34 PM
sanders, although I wouldn't mind O'Malley

Clinton has and always will look at the polls for her opinions, she has no actual beliefs on her own and if she does they've never been made public. I don't agree with Sanders, but at least he has the balls to have an unpopular opinion.

Also sanders isn't a chronic liar

LURD
02-10-2016, 01:05 PM
#FeelTheBern!

thepigfarmer
02-10-2016, 01:29 PM
This is outdated, O'Malley is out.

Boomer
02-10-2016, 01:36 PM
None of them. But if I HAVE to choose, let's see:

Sanders is a Socialist. Yea I don't feel like getting ruled by an almost-Commie.

Clinton cheated on votes a few days ago. Should be kicked out.

O'Malley? I know nothing about him other than the fact he's a Democrap.


O'Malley I guess.

bjake7710
02-10-2016, 01:51 PM
95% of Sanders voters are just millenials that want free stuff tbh

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 01:53 PM
95% of Sanders voters are just millenials that want free stuff tbh

Maybe I just want an atheist president? Is that so much to ask?

bjake7710
02-10-2016, 01:55 PM
Maybe I just want an atheist president? Is that so much to ask?
So you wouldn't vote for him if he was (insert religion) this is why America suffers: /

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 02:04 PM
So you wouldn't vote for him if he was (insert religion) this is why America suffers: /

No, I would. Just considering your comment I didn't feel like justifying myself past that point was worth my time :)

bjake7710
02-10-2016, 02:06 PM
No, I would. Just considering your comment I didn't feel like justifying myself past that point was worth my time :)

Then what's the point in saying that you just want an athiest Pres ...

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 02:08 PM
Then what's the point in saying that you just want an athiest Pres ...
atheist* .

bjake7710
02-10-2016, 02:10 PM
atheist* .

Lets not make valid points and instead correct grammar:)

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 02:15 PM
Lets not make valid points and instead correct grammar:)

And you somehow think that saying 95% of the people who are going to vote for Sanders is a millenial who wants free things? I was just stating one of my reasons for wanting him to win, which contradicted your argument. Like I said, I don't believe you're worth my time, so I'm finished replying.

bjake7710
02-10-2016, 02:17 PM
And you somehow think that saying 95% of the people who are going to vote for Sanders is a millenial who wants free things? I was just stating one of my reasons for wanting him to win, which contradicted your argument. Like I said, I don't believe you're worth my time, so I'm finished replying.
The reason you have is why people make fun of America "Voting based on someone being an athiest "

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 02:19 PM
The reason you have is why people make fun of America "Voting based on someone being an athiest "

If I was actually voting for him I would obviously look up more about him. If I can't vote anyways, why the hell should I bother?

EDIT: Dammit I forgot I said I wasn't gonna reply

bjake7710
02-10-2016, 02:21 PM
If I was actually voting for him I would obviously look up more about him. If I can't vote anyways, why the hell should I bother?

EDIT: Dammit I forgot I said I wasn't gonna reply

I can't vote either but it's always good to know what president will hypothetically screw us over and not because of their religion...

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 03:03 PM
I can't vote either but it's always good to know what president will hypothetically screw us over and not because of their religion...

Alright, I don't really care all that much considering I can't effect the outcome. Besides, based on the videos of Bernie I've seen, he seems far better than who most people consider the most likely candidates to win (Hillary and Trump).

bjake7710
02-10-2016, 03:14 PM
Alright, I don't really care all that much considering I can't effect the outcome. Besides, based on the videos of Bernie I've seen, he seems far better than who most people consider the most likely candidates to win (Hillary and Trump).

I respect that However my view is the polar opposite of yours which is OK. Bernie gets most of his support by promoting socialism close to communism. The millenials all think that would be great for America. They all say stuff like look at x country it works for them but all socialist countries don't compare to the Us in size and have a good economy as well

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 03:16 PM
I respect that However my view is the polar opposite of yours which is OK. Bernie gets most of his support by promoting socialism close to communism. The millenials all think that would be great for America. They all say stuff like look at x country it works for them but all socialist countries don't compare to the Us in size and have a good economy as well

I really don't care.

Surgicals
02-10-2016, 03:17 PM
If Bernie Sanders becomes president, he wants to legalize marijuana.

please no infraction :nope:

bjake7710
02-10-2016, 03:21 PM
I really don't care.

Then why comment on a political thread

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 03:24 PM
If Bernie Sanders becomes president, he wants to legalize marijuana.

please no infraction :nope:

Which is my second reason for wanting him to win.

Boomer
02-10-2016, 03:25 PM
I really don't care.

Sooo...you're saying you want to spy on your friends and family and vice versa, be told what to do, where to work, and if you publicly criticize the government get a severe punishment (jail time, and possibly death)?

You will care when that happens.

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 03:34 PM
Sooo...you're saying you want to spy on your friends and family and vice versa, be told what to do, where to work, and if you publicly criticize the government get a severe punishment (jail time, and possibly death)?

You will care when that happens.

Yeah, because I totally said that. If you really think that that will happen if Bernie Sanders is elected (or really anyone, for that matter), you need a reality check. We have Congress for a reason.

This is what happens when politics are debated in a forum about a children's game.

Boomer
02-10-2016, 03:41 PM
Yeah, because I totally said that. If you really think that that will happen if Bernie Sanders is elected (or really anyone, for that matter), you need a reality check. We have Congress for a reason.

This is what happens when politics are debated in a forum about a children's game.

I have no faith in Congress. Never did.

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 03:46 PM
I have no faith in Congress. Never did.

I really don't care whether you do or not. It doesn't effect me, and it never will.

abt79
02-10-2016, 03:49 PM
I can't vote either but it's always good to know what president will hypothetically screw us over and not because of their religion...

I seriously hope the only reason you're voting for sanders is because he's an atheist.

I mean, I have nothing against being an atheist or most atheist, but being an atheist doesn't make you a good person necessarily and being religious doesn't make you bad.


These "I want to see a ___ president" voters really annoy me no matter who it is they're voting for; Obama, Kennedy, Clinton, it's still a stupid reason to vote for someone.

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 03:50 PM
I seriously hope the only reason you're voting for sanders is because he's an atheist.

I mean, I have nothing again being an atheist or most atheist, but being an atheist doesn't make you a good person necessarily and being religious doesn't make you bad.


These "I want to see a ___ president" voters really annoy me no matter who it is they're voting for; Obama, Kennedy, Clinton, it's still a stupid reason to vote for someone.

I think you replied to the wrong person.

abt79
02-10-2016, 03:55 PM
I think you replied to the wrong person.

Whoops, yeah. That was meant for you

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 03:57 PM
Whoops, yeah. That was meant for you

Alright that's what I figured.

I can't vote, but if I were then of course I would look more into the guy as well as the other candidates before making my decision.

Also saying I want him to win because he's an atheist (kind of) was incorrect. I really just want him to win because 1. I like the dude and 2. He wants to legalize marijuana. I know there were other reasons I had, but I've forgotten them.

Ilikecats
02-10-2016, 04:07 PM
christy bc im repblican and from NJ

abt79
02-10-2016, 04:07 PM
Alright that's what I figured.

I can't vote, but if I were then of course I would look more into the guy as well as the other candidates before making my decision.

Also saying I want him to win because he's an atheist (kind of) was incorrect. I really just want him to win because 1. I like the dude and 2. He wants to legalize marijuana. I know there were other reasons I had, but I've forgotten them.

That's better I suppose.
I personally like the guy too, I just don't agree with him on really any of his positions.
Still the best democratic candidate that has a realistic chance of winning though

bjake7710
02-10-2016, 04:31 PM
christy bc im repblican and from NJ

I heard he dropped out may be wrong

Spotlight
02-10-2016, 06:47 PM
Sanders, cause he'll raise the minimum wage so I'll get paid more.

Panko
02-10-2016, 07:07 PM
i want sanders to win. honestly the best candidate out of the three.

It doesn't matter, they are just puppets to the Illuminati.

mrthadawee
02-10-2016, 07:23 PM
Hilary is confirmed to be as corrupt now as she was back in her day. If not worse. Her emails being leaked just woke people up to her crap, not to mention she has literally hired internet trolls to shill for her on forums.

Bernie sounds great and all, but socialism is a cancer, you may think raising the minimum wage would be cool, but the only people on the minimum wage are low life losers who have lost all their crap or kids, if employers paid people what they thought was worth what they worked for, then there would be competition for better pay, which helps both the employee and employer. Anyone who wants to take the matters of first world feminist problems over than real threats to the security of the country is pretty low in my books IMO
Also Bernie seems to be shreking Hilary at any rate, neither have the authority, energy and/or funds to keep up with Trump.


As for Republicans, Trump is a wildcard, he has memed his way to the top (that and being really rich). He seems to be the only one against the TPP, something that would actually really support the likes of him if he WAS corrupt and evil people say he is.
Yes he's said some contriversal stuff, but political correctness can bugger off, it's literally social suicide to say anything other than "hurr trump is sexist and racist :D" because the herdlike menality of kids is "progressive". If the vast majority of hippies and feminists approve it, kids in your schools are probably believing and spouting it.

What's the TPP you ask? It's only the BIGGEST LARGE CORPORATION POWER GRAB in our time, and it's being organized IN PRIVATE and WITHOUT the American public's consent. You probably haven't heard about it and if you have you've probably heard something about free trade. DO NOT FALL FOR THE TRAP! The TPP will screw us all over. The bubble that is the American economy will POP and never repair. And who will benefit? Large powerful corporations working with the government to impose tyranny such as internet censorship, out right banning of free speech, legal complications for downloading stuff like Youtube videos... The list goes on...
Whoever is elected, they better be against the TPP or we are all in for hard times.


Who am I and why does this concern me? I may be British but the TPP will affect me too, I work in agirculture/conservation and the EU restrictions hurt people like me a lot. Cheap foreign imports along with an invasion of migrants will eventually ruin every decent farmhand and hard worker in Britain as it delves further into cultural suicide and this will only be stopped if we 1: Get out of the EU and 2: Not allow huge governments and corporations. to dictate our countries and 3: Get a true honest leader in the houses of Parliment.

Also enough of this Illuminati crap, if there's any secret society that is behind all the bad stuff in the world, it's the Rothchilds.

Spotlight
02-10-2016, 07:26 PM
Hilary is confirmed to be as corrupt now as she was back in her day. If not worse. Her emails being leaked just woke people up to her crap, not to mention she has literally hired internet trolls to shill for her on forums.

Bernie sounds great and all, but socialism is a cancer, you may think raising the minimum wage would be cool, but the only people on the minimum wage are low life losers who have lost all their crap or kids, if employers paid people what they thought was worth what they worked for, then there would be competition for better pay, which helps both the employee and employer. Anyone who wants to take the matters of first world feminist problems over than real threats to the security of the country is pretty low in my books IMO
Also Bernie seems to be shreking Hilary at any rate, neither have the authority, energy and/or funds to keep up with Trump.


As for Republicans, Trump is a wildcard, he has memed his way to the top (that and being really rich). He seems to be the only one against the TPP, something that would actually really support the likes of him if he WAS corrupt and evil people say he is.
Yes he's said some contriversal stuff, but political correctness can bugger off, it's literally social suicide to say anything other than "hurr trump is sexist and racist :D" because the herdlike menality of kids is "progressive". If the vast majority of hippies and feminists approve it, kids in your schools are probably believing and spouting it.

What's the TPP you ask? It's only the BIGGEST LARGE CORPORATION POWER GRAB in our time, and it's being organized IN PRIVATE and WITHOUT the American public's consent. You probably haven't heard about it and if you have you've probably heard something about free trade. DO NOT FALL FOR THE TRAP! The TPP will screw us all over. The bubble that is the American economy will POP and never repair. And who will benefit? Large powerful corporations working with the government to impose tyranny such as internet censorship, out right banning of free speech, legal complications for downloading stuff like Youtube videos... The list goes on...
Whoever is elected, they better be against the TPP or we are all in for hard times.


Who am I and why does this concern me? I may be British but the TPP will affect me too, I work in agirculture/conservation and the EU restrictions hurt people like me a lot. Cheap foreign imports along with an invasion of migrants will eventually ruin every decent farmhand and hard worker in Britain as it delves further into cultural suicide and this will only be stopped if we 1: Get out of the EU and 2: Not allow huge governments and corporations. to dictate our countries and 3: Get a true honest leader in the houses of Parliment.

Also enough of this Illuminati crap, if there's any secret society that is behind all the bad stuff in the world, it's the Rothchilds.

Very well said.

abt79
02-10-2016, 07:33 PM
Hilary is confirmed to be as corrupt now as she was back in her day. If not worse. Her emails being leaked just woke people up to her crap, not to mention she has literally hired internet trolls to shill for her on forums.

Bernie sounds great and all, but socialism is a cancer, you may think raising the minimum wage would be cool, but the only people on the minimum wage are low life losers who have lost all their crap or kids, if employers paid people what they thought was worth what they worked for, then there would be competition for better pay, which helps both the employee and employer. Anyone who wants to take the matters of first world feminist problems over than real threats to the security of the country is pretty low in my books IMO
Also Bernie seems to be shreking Hilary at any rate, neither have the authority, energy and/or funds to keep up with Trump.


As for Republicans, Trump is a wildcard, he has memed his way to the top (that and being really rich). He seems to be the only one against the TPP, something that would actually really support the likes of him if he WAS corrupt and evil people say he is.
Yes he's said some contriversal stuff, but political correctness can bugger off, it's literally social suicide to say anything other than "hurr trump is sexist and racist :D" because the herdlike menality of kids is "progressive". If the vast majority of hippies and feminists approve it, kids in your schools are probably believing and spouting it.

What's the TPP you ask? It's only the BIGGEST LARGE CORPORATION POWER GRAB in our time, and it's being organized IN PRIVATE and WITHOUT the American public's consent. You probably haven't heard about it and if you have you've probably heard something about free trade. DO NOT FALL FOR THE TRAP! The TPP will screw us all over. The bubble that is the American economy will POP and never repair. And who will benefit? Large powerful corporations working with the government to impose tyranny such as internet censorship, out right banning of free speech, legal complications for downloading stuff like Youtube videos... The list goes on...
Whoever is elected, they better be against the TPP or we are all in for hard times.


Who am I and why does this concern me? I may be British but the TPP will affect me too, I work in agirculture/conservation and the EU restrictions hurt people like me a lot. Cheap foreign imports along with an invasion of migrants will eventually ruin every decent farmhand and hard worker in Britain as it delves further into cultural suicide and this will only be stopped if we 1: Get out of the EU and 2: Not allow huge governments and corporations. to dictate our countries and 3: Get a true honest leader in the houses of Parliment.

Also enough of this Illuminati crap, if there's any secret society that is behind all the bad stuff in the world, it's the Rothchilds.


Sometime a month or two ago I realized the best candidate who has a realistic chance of getting elected is Donald Trump.


I'm still disappointed, yet I'm still voting for Trump

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 07:39 PM
Hilary is confirmed to be as corrupt now as she was back in her day. If not worse. Her emails being leaked just woke people up to her crap, not to mention she has literally hired internet trolls to shill for her on forums.

Bernie sounds great and all, but socialism is a cancer, you may think raising the minimum wage would be cool, but the only people on the minimum wage are low life losers who have lost all their crap or kids, if employers paid people what they thought was worth what they worked for, then there would be competition for better pay, which helps both the employee and employer. Anyone who wants to take the matters of first world feminist problems over than real threats to the security of the country is pretty low in my books IMO
Also Bernie seems to be shreking Hilary at any rate, neither have the authority, energy and/or funds to keep up with Trump.


As for Republicans, Trump is a wildcard, he has memed his way to the top (that and being really rich). He seems to be the only one against the TPP, something that would actually really support the likes of him if he WAS corrupt and evil people say he is.
Yes he's said some contriversal stuff, but political correctness can bugger off, it's literally social suicide to say anything other than "hurr trump is sexist and racist :D" because the herdlike menality of kids is "progressive". If the vast majority of hippies and feminists approve it, kids in your schools are probably believing and spouting it.

What's the TPP you ask? It's only the BIGGEST LARGE CORPORATION POWER GRAB in our time, and it's being organized IN PRIVATE and WITHOUT the American public's consent. You probably haven't heard about it and if you have you've probably heard something about free trade. DO NOT FALL FOR THE TRAP! The TPP will screw us all over. The bubble that is the American economy will POP and never repair. And who will benefit? Large powerful corporations working with the government to impose tyranny such as internet censorship, out right banning of free speech, legal complications for downloading stuff like Youtube videos... The list goes on...
Whoever is elected, they better be against the TPP or we are all in for hard times.


Who am I and why does this concern me? I may be British but the TPP will affect me too, I work in agirculture/conservation and the EU restrictions hurt people like me a lot. Cheap foreign imports along with an invasion of migrants will eventually ruin every decent farmhand and hard worker in Britain as it delves further into cultural suicide and this will only be stopped if we 1: Get out of the EU and 2: Not allow huge governments and corporations. to dictate our countries and 3: Get a true honest leader in the houses of Parliment.

Also enough of this Illuminati crap, if there's any secret society that is behind all the bad stuff in the world, it's the Rothchilds.

Remind me to stay of political stuff with thada.

mrthadawee
02-10-2016, 07:42 PM
Sometime a month or two ago I realized the best candidate who has a realistic chance of getting elected is Donald Trump.


I'm still disappointed, yet I'm still voting for Trump

Trump isn't ideal, but he is heading in the right direction, the sad truth is that a two party system like in America just gives an illusion of freedom and choice, but unless the candidate is completely remote from the ties of the powers that be then it's just another season of America getting played again.

Trump is a complete wildcard and he's doing so well that the powers that be are getting scared, I wonder what happens if we push it more and cross the line... Will America ever truely be great again or are they doomed to foolishly repeat history and vote for either the jackass or the elephant...

A picture explains a thousand words.
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Ben-Garrison-March-of-Tyranny-600x330.jpg

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Remind me to stay of political stuff with thada.

What? Because my views differ from the politically "correct" feelgood hugbox hivemind of millenials and degenerates?

Probably for the best then :^)


PS: Yay I'm on your sig of "I hate everyone but these few cool cats". pls no bully :^)

Metalwire
02-10-2016, 07:44 PM
Trump isn't ideal, but he is heading in the right direction, the sad truth is that a two party system like in America just gives an illusion of freedom and choice, but unless the candidate is completely remote from the ties of the powers that be then it's just another season of America getting played again.

Trump is a complete wildcard and he's doing so well that the powers that be are getting scared, I wonder what happens if we push it more and cross the line... Will America ever truely be great again or are they doomed to foolishly repeat history and vote for either the jackass or the elephant...

A picture explains a thousand words.
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Ben-Garrison-March-of-Tyranny-600x330.jpg
I really see everyone as corrupt as the gvenrment. If you compare the past to the present you can clearly see that we have had better presidents in the pat then what we have now. Republicans and Democrats do have different beliefs but will eventually aim for their own belief during the presidential term. I rather stay with Obam I just personally have interest in his personality,but besides the fact that his presidential run wasn't as good I still have my doubts. I don't really care who becomes the president as long as they have the mindset of helping the American nation and not themself then it's all good.

abt79
02-10-2016, 07:53 PM
Trump isn't ideal, but he is heading in the right direction, the sad truth is that a two party system like in America just gives an illusion of freedom and choice, but unless the candidate is completely remote from the ties of the powers that be then it's just another season of America getting played again.

Trump is a complete wildcard and he's doing so well that the powers that be are getting scared, I wonder what happens if we push it more and cross the line... Will America ever truely be great again or are they doomed to foolishly repeat history and vote for either the jackass or the elephant...

A picture explains a thousand words.
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Ben-Garrison-March-of-Tyranny-600x330.jpg

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What? Because my views differ from the politically "correct" feelgood hugbox hivemind of millenials and degenerates?

Probably for the best then :^)


PS: Yay I'm on your sig of "I hate everyone but these few cool cats". pls no bully :^)
I agree with you and was thinking of posting that comic but realized some might not agree with the guy sticking up above the clouds

mrthadawee
02-10-2016, 08:00 PM
I really see everyone as corrupt as the gvenrment. If you compare the past to the present you can clearly see that we have had better presidents in the pat then what we have now. Republicans and Democrats do have different beliefs but will eventually aim for their own belief during the presidential term. I rather stay with Obam I just personally have interest in his personality,but besides the fact that his presidential run wasn't as good I still have my doubts. I don't really care who becomes the president as long as they have the mindset of helping the American nation and not themself then it's all good.
In that case you've already ruled Hilary Clinton out.

Obama was a terrible president, if you realized the stuff he did and endorsed...

-He conducted false flag events to push for gun control, I know your police have an attitude but taking the guns away from normal people will only remove their last defence.

-He helped fund stuff like ISIS and Al Quieda (Just how presidents before him funded wars for profit). Helps arm them with weapons (oops a military container full of ammo and weapons 'mistakenly' got confused with food supplies and now weapond are in the hands of ISIS how silly of me tee hee). Bare in mind there has been reports of Hilary doing this too.. BENGHAZI!

-He helped to completely screw over America's education with common core (there were many corrupt supporters of this, Bill Gates included. And just when I thought America's education couldn't get any worse)

-OBAMACARE, need I say more?

+Yes he allowed gay marriage rights, and good for them, but a little birdie told me he wasn't the one to sort that out (senators of the state did the paperwork). But it seems to be a little waste of time in the midst of all the madness he has caused.

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I agree with you and was thinking of posting that comic but realized some might not agree with the guy sticking up above the clouds

Would you prefer the original?

http://i.imgur.com/hep4JIo.jpg
Ben Garrison is great btw..

The truth shall prevail!

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 08:25 PM
In that case you've already ruled Hilary Clinton out.

Obama was a terrible president, if you realized the stuff he did and endorsed...

-He conducted false flag events to push for gun control, I know your police have an attitude but taking the guns away from normal people will only remove their last defence.

-He helped fund stuff like ISIS and Al Quieda (Just how presidents before him funded wars for profit). Helps arm them with weapons (oops a military container full of ammo and weapons 'mistakenly' got confused with food supplies and now weapond are in the hands of ISIS how silly of me tee hee). Bare in mind there has been reports of Hilary doing this too.. BENGHAZI!

-He helped to completely screw over America's education with common core (there were many corrupt supporters of this, Bill Gates included. And just when I thought America's education couldn't get any worse)

-OBAMACARE, need I say more?

+Yes he allowed gay marriage rights, and good for them, but a little birdie told me he wasn't the one to sort that out (senators of the state did the paperwork). But it seems to be a little waste of time in the midst of all the madness he has caused.

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Would you prefer the original?

http://i.imgur.com/hep4JIo.jpg
Ben Garrison is great btw..

The truth shall prevail!

Are you for or against stricter background checks?

JOSHIE63
02-10-2016, 08:27 PM
Call me a typical ignorant nihilist, but the government is biased either way. The political parties would rather have partisans running for office than what an idealistic candidate should be. To be candid, political parties already are the greatest blight to the government; the independents are slowly progressing, which is a good sign.

I am no expert in politics, but reputation always wins. The presidential debates are far from civil most times; it is rather an attack against the opposition instead. Why do people dislike Sanders and Clinton? I will tell you now that it has nothing to do with their agenda in mind.

On top of that, you have extreme conservatives and extreme liberals running the two major parties in the U.S. — moderates hardly take pertinence to the intransigent caucus leaders. Any task the government carries out — especially in legislative areas — are disputed because of the party association, not the ideals it was drafted upon. What the most baneful of all is that Americans are so biased that our "educated, rightful" patriots (that I see more out of Republicans) claim superiority for a vote that has nothing to do with their beliefs most of the time. Our educated voters really do not deserve a vote; they are the constituents that blindly support these partisans.

Personally, I have no interest in government, nor do I have a party affiliation. I probably will not even vote when I come of age; I do not want to ignorantly vote therefore I will not.

kwj340
02-10-2016, 08:29 PM
I like Sanders because he supports free college. And let's face it, who is gonna be able to get college completely free with scholarships/self or family funds without using loans. Most people don't go to college for that reason. Which leads them stuck at a minimum wage job, which as of right now, isn't enough to completely provide for yourself.

I get that he's a socialist and that's stopping a lot of his votes, but socialism isn't even all that bad. Not saying I'm completely for it, but it's better than the capitalist government we're in. A lot of people don't like socialism because most of American media is owned by 6 corporations that are against it. The more government intervention, the more people can become part of government and exert influence over them.

abt79
02-10-2016, 09:02 PM
I probably will not even vote when I come of age; I do not want to ignorantly vote therefore I will not.

Or you could just vote not-ignorantly.

Nah, better to wash your hands of the matter and let people ruin your home country

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I like Sanders because he supports free college. And let's face it, who is gonna be able to get college completely free with scholarships/self or family funds without using loans. Most people don't go to college for that reason. Which leads them stuck at a minimum wage job, which as of right now, isn't enough to completely provide for yourself.

I get that he's a socialist and that's stopping a lot of his votes, but socialism isn't even all that bad. Not saying I'm completely for it, but it's better than the capitalist government we're in. A lot of people don't like socialism because most of American media is owned by 6 corporations that are against it. The more government intervention, the more people can become part of government and exert influence over them.

Well then, who pays for free college?

Don't get me wrong, student debt is not party, but socialism's lofty ideals end up doing more harm to the economy than good.

bluemtndew
02-10-2016, 09:03 PM
Or you could just vote not-ignorantly.

Nah, better to wash your hands of the matter and let people ruin your home country

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Well then, who pays for free college?

Don't get me wrong, student debt is not party, but socialism's lofty ideals end up doing more harm to the economy than good.

Not like you vote anyways, who are you to judge?

abt79
02-10-2016, 09:04 PM
Not like you vote anyways, who are you to judge?

Says who?

I vote all the time; of course even if I didn't just because I do something wrong doesn't mean it's OK for other people to do that too

Metalwire
02-10-2016, 09:12 PM
In that case you've already ruled Hilary Clinton out.

Obama was a terrible president, if you realized the stuff he did and endorsed...

-He conducted false flag events to push for gun control, I know your police have an attitude but taking the guns away from normal people will only remove their last defence.

-He helped fund stuff like ISIS and Al Quieda (Just how presidents before him funded wars for profit). Helps arm them with weapons (oops a military container full of ammo and weapons 'mistakenly' got confused with food supplies and now weapond are in the hands of ISIS how silly of me tee hee). Bare in mind there has been reports of Hilary doing this too.. BENGHAZI!

-He helped to completely screw over America's education with common core (there were many corrupt supporters of this, Bill Gates included. And just when I thought America's education couldn't get any worse)

-OBAMACARE, need I say more?

+Yes he allowed gay marriage rights, and good for them, but a little birdie told me he wasn't the one to sort that out (senators of the state did the paperwork). But it seems to be a little waste of time in the midst of all the madness he has caused.

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Would you prefer the original?

http://i.imgur.com/hep4JIo.jpg
Ben Garrison is great btw..

The truth shall prevail!
Lets just rule everyone else. I mean think about it do they really have better ways that will not only benefit our country but can help establish a peaceful notion?. I don't think this presidential campaign was good to say because one can already assume what each individual will do because fo their notorious background(not Referring to everyone)

I see Trump as an inspiration not to me but to others who want to consider speaking up. He does make good points but alas their is that percentage that he personally goes against such as Hispanics.

Hilary already ran for President and is determined to do it again just for that top hierarchical position. Stuff has been spread around because of her actions not sure about it.

Going back to at least when George Washington was president he never chose a party because he new already that political parties such as today would divide our beliefs system and might say that his point is already proven. We don't need Political Parties to separate us this is absurd and unjustified because it's lacking union.

Furthermore. The Democratic Party and the Republican Party seem to be the only parties that can actually persuade and allude people to their ideas.
Their are parties such as Libertarian Party, Green party, and Constitution Party. They all seem to have good ideas but they are never put out their to the public up to the point where someone says (hey this is a good idea I want this Party to Stand out).

The Government doesn't work like that and if the people stop considering the Government as their Official Leaders(not all the time) Then they better speak up, because Honestly think about it Who will be a good president. Who will actually try and distribute money and education equally regardless of age or race?

lolgal96
02-11-2016, 11:01 AM
If Bernie Sanders becomes president, he wants to legalize marijuana.

please no infraction :nope:

he's awesome.

Trolled
02-11-2016, 11:17 AM
Hilary is corrupt.

Socialism is cancer, raising the minimum wage for people on the minimum wage are life losers who have lost all. If employers paid people what they thought was worth what they worked for, then there would be competition for better pay, which helps both the employee and employer.
Also Bernie seems to be shrieking Hilary at any rate, neither have the authority, energy and/or funds to keep up with Trump.

Republicans, Trump is a crazy, his to the top (that and being really rich). He seems to be the only one against the TPP, something that would actually really support the likes of him if he WAS corrupt and evil people say he is.
He said some controversial stuff.

What's the TPP you ask? It's only the BIGGEST TRAP! The TPP will screw us. The American economy will POP and never repair. Large powerful corporations working with the government to impose tyranny such as internet censorship, out right banning of free speech, legal complications for downloading stuff like Youtube videos... The list goes on...
Whoever is elected, they better be against the TPP or we are all in for hard times. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I may be British but the TPP will affect me too. EU restrictions hurt people like me a lot. Cheap foreign imports along with an invasion of migrants will eventually ruin every decent farmhand and hard worker in Britain as it delves further into cultural suicide and this will only be stopped if we 1: Get out of the EU/ Not allow huge governments to dictate our countries and Get a GOOD leader in the houses of Parliment.

Also enough of this Illuminati crap, if there's any secret society that is behind all the bad stuff in the world, it's the Rothchilds. And HILLARY.

Can we just have Obama as third term? And not just be a lame duck. As if it will happen... EU did try to stop British to use Pounds and convert to Euro which is definitely at losing end since the currency is weaker which will happen by 2020 if British remained in EU. And there's the foreign migrants issue happening parts of the world. Tired...

SO JUST GO MAD. No suitable leader???????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????

abt79
02-11-2016, 11:47 AM
he's awesome.

By the looks of things you just ignored everything mrthadawee said

bjake7710
02-11-2016, 12:04 PM
Can we just have Obama as third term? And not just be a lame duck. As if it will happen... EU did try to stop British to use Pounds and convert to Euro which is definitely at losing end since the currency is weaker which will happen by 2020 if British remained in EU. And there's the foreign migrants issue happening parts of the world. Tired...
Obama as a third term... Trolling? He did notHing useful except Obamacare which I don't agree with in the first place why should immigrants get healthcare for free when I have to pay for it? Is that fair no it's not and it's a messed up system that needs to be abolished. As does welfare for the lazy people who live off it and aren't looking for a job

NOBEL21
02-11-2016, 08:44 PM
None of them. But if I HAVE to choose, let's see:

Sanders is a Socialist. Yea I don't feel like getting ruled by an almost-Commie.

Clinton cheated on votes a few days ago. Should be kicked out.

O'Malley? I know nothing about him other than the fact he's a Democrap.


O'Malley I guess. I live in Sweden and we aren,t even close to communsm. He's a democratic socialist, big difference.

legonerd
02-11-2016, 08:49 PM
Sanders, cause he'll raise the minimum wage so I'll get paid more.

And get 90% taxed.

JOSHIE63
02-11-2016, 08:49 PM
Or you could just vote not-ignorantly.

Nah, better to wash your hands of the matter and let people ruin your home country.

Voting is choosing the lesser of two evils. Bias is different from ignorance; though they appear indifferent. Or do you still think your vote actually counts?

Also, voting is not an obligation; it is a privilege that I can exercise at will.


By the looks of things you just ignored everything mrthadawee said

Or — and hear me out — maybe…just maybe she has an opinion that is not your own.

NOBEL21
02-11-2016, 08:51 PM
Sooo...you're saying you want to spy on your friends and family and vice versa, be told what to do, where to work, and if you publicly criticize the government get a severe punishment (jail time, and possibly death)?

You will care when that happens. Works good in Sweden. :/

abt79
02-11-2016, 10:28 PM
Voting is choosing the lesser of two evils. Bias is different from ignorance; though they appear indifferent. Or do you still think your vote actually counts?

Also, voting is not an obligation; it is a privilege that I can exercise at will.



Or — and hear me out — maybe…just maybe she has an opinion that is not your own.

1. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still better than allowing the greater of to evils to be chosen. Bias and ignorance are different but share similarities. My vote actually counts, but barely
It is a privilege you can exercise at will, doesn't mean it's in your best interest not to, also this is the only piece immediately relevant to what I said

2. Yes, but thad said things that directly contradicted him, usually people rationalize their opinions and try to prove people wrong when they think they are wrong.

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It's so cute reading people fight over a candidacy that they can't even vote for

I think mrthadawee is over 18 but maybe he's just mature

And I can vote in the next election, so :scratch:

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I live in Sweden and we aren,t even close to communsm. He's a democratic socialist, big difference.

True

But I still wouldn't want to live in sweden

Invest
02-11-2016, 11:28 PM
Sander is the best thanks to the berney fam he'll win the democratic vote.

imustachyou
02-11-2016, 11:29 PM
I want Sanders at first...

then Bloomsberg will join the race!

And then he shall win!!

lolgal96
02-12-2016, 01:38 PM
By the looks of things you just ignored everything mrthadawee said

i didn't. i read it. i don't agree with him. there are people on minimum wage who are seriously trying. my mom has been raising me alone since 2011 and she doesn't even HAVE a job anymore. the best one she had didn't pay much. she is TRYING to raise a 14 year old daughter on an INCREDIBLY fixed income. that's why i moved in with my dad. because i don't want to put all that stress on my mom. she's trying as hard as she can while being paid unemployment benefits because she's almost at the point of being unable to work. you can claim anyone who doesn't work is "lazy" or "lives off of welfare", but that's not true. my mom has an actual chronic illness that has left her jobless from the time i was in 7th grade until very, VERY recently, where she lost her job again. and don't you even think about pulling the "well maybe you should get a job and help her" card, because i'm 14 years old. how will i get to a job? my dad is working all the time, my mom is homeless and trying to get back on her feet, school is too much, and my grandparents would be willing but i can't juggle both a job and homework. WE ARE TRYING AS HARD AS WE CAN. that's why minimum wage should be raised. all the kids with less fortunate home situations. college should be free. you think i'm getting a "small loan of a million dollars"? no. i HAVE to try in school because there's no way i can afford college. i HAVE to get a scholarship. that's why i support bernie. even though i'm young i can safely say he stands for so much that would help my family and i. he's pro-gay marriage which means i can get married WHEREVER i want in the country. he wants free college, or at least, free community college. i HAVE to go to college somewhere. i want to say that i made it. he wants to raise the minimum wage which means that will help out my family.

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Voting is choosing the lesser of two evils. Bias is different from ignorance; though they appear indifferent. Or do you still think your vote actually counts?

Also, voting is not an obligation; it is a privilege that I can exercise at will.



Or — and hear me out — maybe…just maybe she has an opinion that is not your own.

+1 +1 +1

i'm pretty sure abt supports trump, and almost all the trump supporters i've seen are scumbags.

NOBEL21
02-12-2016, 01:55 PM
1. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still better than allowing the greater of to evils to be chosen. Bias and ignorance are different but share similarities. My vote actually counts, but barely
It is a privilege you can exercise at will, doesn't mean it's in your best interest not to, also this is the only piece immediately relevant to what I said

2. Yes, but thad said things that directly contradicted him, usually people rationalize their opinions and try to prove people wrong when they think they are wrong.

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I think mrthadawee is over 18 but maybe he's just mature

And I can vote in the next election, so :scratch:

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True

But I still wouldn't want to live in sweden Why not, it's actually better than what most people think. :/

abt79
02-12-2016, 02:05 PM
i didn't. i read it. i don't agree with him. there are people on minimum wage who are seriously trying. my mom has been raising me alone since 2011 and she doesn't even HAVE a job anymore. the best one she had didn't pay much. she is TRYING to raise a 14 year old daughter on an INCREDIBLY fixed income. that's why i moved in with my dad. because i don't want to put all that stress on my mom. she's trying as hard as she can while being paid unemployment benefits because she's almost at the point of being unable to work. you can claim anyone who doesn't work is "lazy" or "lives off of welfare", but that's not true. my mom has an actual chronic illness that has left her jobless from the time i was in 7th grade until very, VERY recently, where she lost her job again. and don't you even think about pulling the "well maybe you should get a job and help her" card, because i'm 14 years old. how will i get to a job? my dad is working all the time, my mom is homeless and trying to get back on her feet, school is too much, and my grandparents would be willing but i can't juggle both a job and homework. WE ARE TRYING AS HARD AS WE CAN. that's why minimum wage should be raised. all the kids with less fortunate home situations. college should be free. you think i'm getting a "small loan of a million dollars"? no. i HAVE to try in school because there's no way i can afford college. i HAVE to get a scholarship. that's why i support bernie. even though i'm young i can safely say he stands for so much that would help my family and i. he's pro-gay marriage which means i can get married WHEREVER i want in the country. he wants free college, or at least, free community college. i HAVE to go to college somewhere. i want to say that i made it. he wants to raise the minimum wage which means that will help out my family.

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+1 +1 +1

i'm pretty sure abt supports trump, and almost all the trump supporters i've seen are scumbags.
1. Raising the minimum wage can hurt the economy and cause more harm than good, however trump does support white lower/middle class workers, a category your mother falls under

2. You can't just generalize like that. I've never liked trump personally, but Hillary's much worse of a person and I still think trump's policies are the least bad for this country
The reason I thought you didn't read what mrthadawee said is not that you disagreed with me but because you offered your opinion without anything to back it up, glad you're doing that now.

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Why not, it's actually better than what most people think. :/

I don't agree with socialism, but the real problem is how it treats immigration

lolgal96
02-12-2016, 03:40 PM
1. Raising the minimum wage can hurt the economy and cause more harm than good, however trump does support white lower/middle class workers, a category your mother falls under

2. You can't just generalize like that. I've never liked trump personally, but Hillary's much worse of a person and I still think trump's policies are the least bad for this country
The reason I thought you didn't read what mrthadawee said is not that you disagreed with me but because you offered your opinion without anything to back it up, glad you're doing that now.

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I don't agree with socialism, but the real problem is how it treats immigration

the key word is almost all trump supporters. obviously there are some alright ones.

abt79
02-12-2016, 07:19 PM
the key word is almost all trump supporters. obviously there are some alright ones.

I don't believe any kind of majority of trump supporters go out of their way to offend anyone, they just don't care if they do.
It's the intention to harm that makes one a scumbag, so I wouldn't call them that

lolgal96
02-12-2016, 08:42 PM
I don't believe any kind of majority of trump supporters go out of their way to offend anyone, they just don't care if they do.
It's the intention to harm that makes one a scumbag, so I wouldn't call them that

my ""aunt"" supports trump and she said all hillary supporters should kill themselves because they're a "waste of good air"

abt79
02-12-2016, 09:03 PM
my ""aunt"" supports trump and she said all hillary supporters should kill themselves because they're a "waste of good air"

One bad impression=/=all supporters are evil

Although Clinton supporters are idiots

Phyric
02-12-2016, 09:05 PM
Why does everyone even like bernie. If you're not smart, you shouldn't get free college. It's that simple. be republican, it's what all the rich people are. :d

lolgal96
02-12-2016, 10:10 PM
Why does everyone even like bernie. If you're not smart, you shouldn't get free college. It's that simple. be republican, it's what all the rich people are. :d

what if you have no money? do i not deserve college?

abt79
02-12-2016, 10:39 PM
what if you have no money? do i not deserve college?

You deserve college, but do others deserve to pay for it?

Comment
02-12-2016, 11:05 PM
Bernie did.

thepigfarmer
02-12-2016, 11:22 PM
Why does everyone even like bernie. If you're not smart, you shouldn't get free college. It's that simple. be republican, it's what all the rich people are. :d
You don't know anything about politics?:whistling:

kwj340
02-13-2016, 12:18 AM
Why does everyone even like bernie. If you're not smart, you shouldn't get free college. It's that simple. be republican, it's what all the rich people are. :d

Just because someone isn't as smart as others, doesn't mean they can't go to college. Everyone deserves a chance of the career path they want. Sure, some people have more trouble than others, but that's no one's business but their own.

thepigfarmer
02-13-2016, 03:06 AM
Hilary is confirmed to be as corrupt now as she was back in her day. If not worse. Her emails being leaked just woke people up to her crap, not to mention she has literally hired internet trolls to shill for her on forums.

Bernie sounds great and all, but socialism is a cancer, you may think raising the minimum wage would be cool, but the only people on the minimum wage are low life losers who have lost all their crap or kids, if employers paid people what they thought was worth what they worked for, then there would be competition for better pay, which helps both the employee and employer. Anyone who wants to take the matters of first world feminist problems over than real threats to the security of the country is pretty low in my books IMO
Also Bernie seems to be shreking Hilary at any rate, neither have the authority, energy and/or funds to keep up with Trump.


As for Republicans, Trump is a wildcard, he has memed his way to the top (that and being really rich). He seems to be the only one against the TPP, something that would actually really support the likes of him if he WAS corrupt and evil people say he is.
Yes he's said some contriversal stuff, but political correctness can bugger off, it's literally social suicide to say anything other than "hurr trump is sexist and racist :D" because the herdlike menality of kids is "progressive". If the vast majority of hippies and feminists approve it, kids in your schools are probably believing and spouting it.

What's the TPP you ask? It's only the BIGGEST LARGE CORPORATION POWER GRAB in our time, and it's being organized IN PRIVATE and WITHOUT the American public's consent. You probably haven't heard about it and if you have you've probably heard something about free trade. DO NOT FALL FOR THE TRAP! The TPP will screw us all over. The bubble that is the American economy will POP and never repair. And who will benefit? Large powerful corporations working with the government to impose tyranny such as internet censorship, out right banning of free speech, legal complications for downloading stuff like Youtube videos... The list goes on...
Whoever is elected, they better be against the TPP or we are all in for hard times.


Who am I and why does this concern me? I may be British but the TPP will affect me too, I work in agirculture/conservation and the EU restrictions hurt people like me a lot. Cheap foreign imports along with an invasion of migrants will eventually ruin every decent farmhand and hard worker in Britain as it delves further into cultural suicide and this will only be stopped if we 1: Get out of the EU and 2: Not allow huge governments and corporations. to dictate our countries and 3: Get a true honest leader in the houses of Parliment.

Also enough of this Illuminati crap, if there's any secret society that is behind all the bad stuff in the world, it's the Rothchilds.

Yeah, but you still don't live in the country to know all of the problems here. Also saying that everyone at the minimum wage is like that is a stereotype.

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Why does everyone even like bernie. If you're not smart, you shouldn't get free college. It's that simple. be republican, it's what all the rich people are. :d

I also laugh at the part if your not smart. Do you also know nothing about college? You need to be accepted to a college to get in. There is more then 1 issue, there is a number of issues. You need to see who is the best at solving the most issues.

Maj3sticturd
02-13-2016, 03:17 AM
Tony Abbot for president- Wait what?




No but seriously i hope Abbot becomes prime minister of australia. Seriously, turnbull sucks