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HerobrineFan
02-29-2016, 12:52 AM
Welcome to the Downfall of the Forums.

No, mods. You're doing a great job, that's why I made SUPPORTDEV (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?247703-The-REVOLUTION/page2&p=1769428#post1769428) for heck's sake, I'm taking about the community. The community is what makes Growtopia - Growtopia! But I'm not talking about Growtopia, I'm talking about the Behind-The-Scenes of Growtopia, the forums.

The forums have gone downhill, when 2015 came, it became bland and boring, in 2013 and 2014 it was energetic and drama and friendliness everywhere! When it was 2015, it was straight and simple and bland. In 2016 it's still the same for me, bland and simple.

If you look in Areodax (a great Forumer and a good friend of mines)'s signature, it says this -

"Holy mother you can feel the forums going downhill. Unescessary posts, useless threads and forumers seeking attention. The mods could at least do something about this."

This is my feeling, MagicalFishy, again, a great Forumer. Said this in his quiting thread (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?295234-It-s-been-chill-dudes) before he came back -

"I am very upset with authority in the aspect that they do not try and search for new moderators to lead the community. This is taking a devastating toll on our community as a whole. Spammers, trolls, and people with absolutely no respect still get away with their crimes pretty much scotch free. Our opinions cannot be voiced, drama even in a civil manner cannot be caused, and simply bringing up the name of a banned player or scammer in a thread is considered outlawed. I always cared compassionately about the community, and I always wanted to help out the community in the largest way(s) possible. I always had the feeling of lacking power when I knew I could make a difference. But oh well, that's just a lame story about a kid who's upset and quitting the fourms right now. I may seem immature right now, but I do say that this break/final goodbye is what I need right now. I'll miss all of you very dearly."

I cleared all of that, now let's talk about this, GradeAUnderA style.

Threads - Posts - Stuff

To further evidence my and Areo's "Unnecessary Post" arguement, let's look for unnecessary posts - in the General Chat.

Here's a alert about scams. (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?311758-Scam-Worlds!) Which everybody knows, don't trust anybody you don't know, and don't even trust your friends. It's that simple. Also, wrong subforum.

A illumanti confrimed OMG!!1!1!1 dorito OMG mlg faze clan (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?310756-About-my-afking) thread. This is spam, very much spam. That meme is old as heck.

A 'so weird' thread. (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?311641-Lol-look-at-this). /idk and /wink at the same time? Woah! No Sherlock, just do /idk and ;).

You see! These threads are so out-of-placed and unnecessary, I don't care about your illumanti crap, I want to see real threads with detail.

Drama

Drama!

We all love drama, come on, we watch it on tv, we do it in our lives, drama is part of our lives! In 2013-2014 drama was everywhere and it was entertaining. Angrox? MySpice Cancer? Yeah! But in 2015 we only got Casinos and STYX, that was it. Without drama, the forums are bland, so yeah.

The Community

This is it - the community.

There are mini-mods everywhere you see, attention seekers and people raising their post count, that's the new community. Bland - simple - annoying. We only have a few 2013 Forumers, some 2014 Forumers, and a bunch of 2015-2016 Forumers, that's good! But they're so childish and immature I can't believe their mother let them join the forums. So listen up 2015-2016 Forumers, get mature, you won't be a mod if you keep asking to be, more attention will make your rep decrease, and at least give your posts some sense.

What does this mean?

Get your game up forums! Your idiocy and annoyance is why iCantDance got banned and why bluemtdew got cursed for a while. You guys are lowering the IQ of the whole street.

If you support this and want to change back the forums, and in regards of MagicalFishy - let's #MakeTheForumsGreatAgain - Yeah, that sounds cheesy as heck, but if your like me, put it in your siggy. And if you ever get to meet a mod or some sort, remember to say that.

Anyways, I let that out, so yeah. So I hope you agree with this, post your arguments down below, so anyways, have a great day. :hat:

|ThyLuigi|
02-29-2016, 12:58 AM
Change happens, if you can't get used to it, then stalk the archives.

Vege
02-29-2016, 01:16 AM
"You are only as strong as your weakest ally."

I'm afraid this is applicable here.

PURPLE585
02-29-2016, 01:21 AM
is this your campaign statement

if so you got me

HerobrineFan
02-29-2016, 01:26 AM
is this your campaign statement

if so you got me

hbf 4 prez

Megazork
02-29-2016, 01:39 AM
Change happens, if you can't get used to it, then stalk the archives.

^^^

I really don't understand why people tend to nitpick over tiny things like this. These forums have had a laizzez faire administration for a while now, sometimes raising the bar in what constitutes as breaking the rules. But honestly, it's nothing different from any other game forums. They only assume it's gone to deep :poop: because of the social utopia people perceived it to be back in 2013. No, it wasn't perfect; It was quieter because there was lesser people which meant those that liked to stir trouble weren't as conspicuous.

The forums haven't changed at all. Removing the drama subforum didn't change anything due to forums having the inherent nature to always make drama. Hell, some people on here use certain topics as a pretext to baiting other forumers into dramas.

Spam is the same. If you didn't think there was spam back then, you haven't met people like FuzzyWuzz nor seen the not-so-bright moments of Wok and GBAGamer.

My goodness, maybe some people need to reflect upon themselves especially when you worship the ground of people like icantdance and bluemtndew who created conflict just so you guys can have your drama euphoria. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate them nor dislike them in the least. It's just being a contrarian is just another way of attention seeking.

- - - Updated - - -


hbf 4 prez

Don't complain about spam when these are your kind of replies.

raqk
02-29-2016, 01:53 AM
"Hey, the forums sux and it's the communities fault! Step up your game guise!!!!1!"

JOSHIE63
02-29-2016, 02:44 AM
Hypocrisy? I cannot even begin to explain the unique angles people are not seeing to this problem. First of all, if the majority wants change, stop making it necessary. Cheering for the insinuating, sarcastic remarks. Being cynical is not being a jerk — not even synonymous — so speculative behavior is what should not be scrutinized. The forums love to galvanize unnecessary quarrels and pick on the new guys; in face of a moderator they falter and put up their friendly facade.

Is that enough, or should I even touch how people treat each other?


^^^

I really don't understand why people tend to nitpick over tiny things like this. These forums have had a laizzez faire administration for a while now, sometimes raising the bar in what constitutes as breaking the rules. But honestly, it's nothing different from any other game forums. They only assume it's gone to deep :poop: because of the social utopia people perceived it to be back in 2013. No, it wasn't perfect; It was quieter because there was lesser people which meant those that liked to stir trouble weren't as conspicuous.

The forums haven't changed at all. Removing the drama subforum didn't change anything due to forums having the inherent nature to always make drama. Hell, some people on here use certain topics as a pretext to baiting other forumers into dramas.

Spam is the same. If you didn't think there was spam back then, you haven't met people like FuzzyWuzz nor seen the not-so-bright moments of Wok and GBAGamer.

My goodness, maybe some people need to reflect upon themselves especially when you worship the ground of people like icantdance and bluemtndew who created conflict just so you guys can have your drama euphoria. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate them nor dislike them in the least. It's just being a contrarian is just another way of attention seeking.

Haha…oh…fuzzywuzz was pretty good at what he did.

This really summarizes it up though. A bunch of hypocrites call for change yet maliciously position themselves in the middle as the cause. They are to impute. I am not saying that having more moderators is a bad change; people need to take responsibility for what they say though.

One of my favorite parts of this is the reference to the admiration of imprudent pessimists that we know too well. Both ICantDancce and bluemtndew literally pick fights with children and people treat them as gods that "speak the truth" (epiphany: damn…AngelicY). Personally, I do not find only picking fights they know they can win admirable at all, if even worthy of recognition. I refuse to laud behavior like that; yet, people still get their kicks from spectating these people, egging them on. So where do posts like the OP fall into the same category as those giving accolade to hatred? Oddly enough, they originate from the same user…

Rockytop
02-29-2016, 02:57 AM
Recently, the forums have turned me from a nice annoying guy to a hypocrite. And now, I got to prepare Filthy Frank and the clock.

Applez
02-29-2016, 03:06 AM
Don't complain about spam when these are your kind of replies.

and at this moment, HBF knew he f'd up

Magicalfishy
02-29-2016, 03:12 AM
This thread is entirely true. Not dissing you or anything, but this is surprisingly a very well thought out thread from you. I'll be writing a long thread tomorrow explaining #MAKEGROWTOPIAGREATAGAIN.

Applez
02-29-2016, 03:16 AM
This thread is entirely true. Not dissing you or anything, but this is surprisingly a very well thought out thread from you. I'll be writing a long thread tomorrow explaining #MAKEGROWTOPIAGREATAGAIN.

omg this gave siggy idea

Bruce Wayne
02-29-2016, 03:21 AM
do I count as annoying.
can someone enlighten me on this?

No, really, seriously. I joined in 2015, and got a hell a ton of hate.

am I still my old self? am I spammy?

if you think I'm spammy, that's probably because I have nothing else to do. The drama subforum was closed, and now I have no where to actually be a senseful person, half of the forums don't even know what common sense is. The topics people have are all boring and stuff. I don't like being boring and stuff, I like to bring fun.

Chocolatte
02-29-2016, 03:22 AM
"2014, a time of friendliness and drama." I DUN REMEMBER DERE BEING FRIENDLINESS. I STALKED THE FORUMS MONTHLY I SAw VerY LitTLE NIcE STUf

REGISORD
02-29-2016, 03:36 AM
When I was absent from these forums for a while, I was currently at the TF2 forums, and they have it much worse there. Heck, try the CS:GO forums. We're the ones who have it good here, the TF2/CS:GO forums are a huge cesspool of baitposts and flamewars wallowing in their own filth. The fact that there are no mods there doesn't help.

Areodax
02-29-2016, 04:44 AM
Hold on there horsie, I need to make a video about this.

In my near-drunken demeanor of course.

|ThyLuigi|
02-29-2016, 06:16 AM
do I count as annoying.
can someone enlighten me on this?

No, really, seriously. I joined in 2015, and got a hell a ton of hate.

am I still my old self? am I spammy?

if you think I'm spammy, that's probably because I have nothing else to do. The drama subforum was closed, and now I have no where to actually be a senseful person, half of the forums don't even know what common sense is. The topics people have are all boring and stuff. I don't like being boring and stuff, I like to bring fun.

I thought you joined in 2014. <Checks join date>

Areodax
02-29-2016, 10:03 AM
Though to be honest, I think it's best if you haven't included drama in there. Like what Megazork sez, kids like them can cause drama anytime, or smarter forumers can bait others in a fit of rage and comment wars.

Yes, the quality of drama is lacking ever since the mods removed the drama sub-forum, but what can we do? Isn't this a community full of kids? Where thhe forums SHOULD be a safe haven for kids? This game is literally made for ages 10 and above (may need clarification) for Christ's sake. We could just be kid-friendly towards others who are clearly younger than the majority.

Also, "without drama, the forums are bland", eh? What the hell happened to talking with the people you care about? What the hell happened with making fanfictions for fun? What the hell happened to playing with people in other games, like TF2, Minecraft and so on? Now, is it bland now HBF?

Yes, my signature says the forums itself is going downhill, it still kinda stands since that's how I see the forums for now. Even I have to widen my horizons for the betterment of my soul.

KKcupcake
02-29-2016, 10:06 AM
i want the drama subforum back :cry:

Spotlight
02-29-2016, 04:18 PM
The forums are so boring nowadays. I feel like I'm hanging out in the ballpit in a McDonalds.

Rockytop
02-29-2016, 04:19 PM
The forums are so boring nowadays.

I'm waiting for another mini mod post or a wanna be mod post that way I won't be bored. :p

just one growtopian
02-29-2016, 07:46 PM
I miss the drama too. It was always so entertaining to read those threads. I totally agree with you.

AdminBro
02-29-2016, 07:56 PM
All hail 2014ers!
JK anyways I feel like the community changed, as the old go and new come, so does the old practices. The forums, to my knowledge of course, are for important discussion and buying/selling, just like the other forums. The debates, drama, and overall "unbland" stuff is just the sugarcoat/extra filling. And for spammy threads, just ignore the users. As for myself, I think the whole meme thing is okay. I mean, there are terrible forumers out there who don't follow rules, but along with drama comes the comedy, as mediocre as it is. Its a kids game, with a kids community full of people who still think certain cliche and overused memes are still "rad".

:excl:JUST MY OPINION:excl:

Sk8ter
02-29-2016, 09:32 PM
In the end, no one is really going to change. The forum will continue being the "same old same old". Unless a new forumer comes and becomes all the rage, or an old forumer rises up from the dead; nothing big is going to happen. I could be wrong, but all that's coming out of this thread are more zealous hypocrites with even more hypocritical things to say that a hypocrite would say about being a hypocrite; being hypocrites and all.

This is directed at no one in particular :P

Berenice
02-29-2016, 11:04 PM
The downfall? The forums seem the same since Janurary 2014 lol.

There were bossy people and there still are.

there were spammers likeHakma, and they're still annoying.

I don't know why people think it's all changed, and it's going down when it's been the same for 2 years.

Ok, well it might have been paradise in Janurary 2013 - December 2013, but that was too long ago

ImAPogo
03-01-2016, 11:52 AM
When I firstly come as a forum member..

THERES TOO MANY FREAKIN Beware Of Drop Game.I Want To Be Mod.This Is Wrong Subforum.

Before Im a forum member,I keep watching this forum as a guest since 2013,It looked so cool like those funny Hakma guy,those dramas,and those cool forumers.

But when I joined the forum its like a garbage.

abt79
03-01-2016, 12:36 PM
You didn't even talk in proper GradeAUnderA style, here it's like this:

Stop waxing nostalgic for 2013 and 2014, roight, because it's not like it was perfect back then, and it's not really gotten that much worse in the past year or two, ya wankah.
You can't just say your early days of Growtopia were perfect and ideal, roight, and that it's just so horrible now just because you've gotten bored of the game, which is understandable I might add. You can't blame that on the community, roight, because..well, it's always been :poop: and it hasn't gotten worse, only your perception of it has, you schewpid wankah.

IShutter
03-01-2016, 02:31 PM
This thread perfectly states what the hell happened, its really and as cheesy as it may sound...it REALLY is the the community which makes up the forums, and many really awesome forumers have left, and heck..think about it, they got themselves banned, really only because they knew the forum is dead for them, and it will be dead...so make the best out of it, create some drama and just get banned.

[Goldshard]
03-01-2016, 02:49 PM
I have to agree. I found the forums great for having conversations, seeing the latest news (wether it be drama or not) and just having fun with other players offline. Now it's just people kinda being rude or just selling stuff (which is in no means bad, just boring).

_CM
03-01-2016, 02:53 PM
Change is hard, as people said before. We're new to something that has never been happened before and all we do is panic, assume it's the beginning of the end. We can never accept change, but change is inevitable and we must cope with those changes the best we can.

This thread, is pointless. Pointing out flaws in the forums that must be fixed, without even knowing what are the variables that affects the maturity level of people in the forums. Assumptions based on a single point of view.

And, how can we change if you, the OP can't try to start to change?

Hans
03-01-2016, 02:59 PM
For a full month of only lurking, this thread drew my attention. Not in any good way possible. Actually, Megazork made me realize this a long time ago.

Why do we all treat this forum as if it were any different from other game forums? It was made to discuss. Simple as that. Those bland and zealous copies as an excuse for a pathetic "concept" is what you would always, usually see in every game forum. Fights are inevitable, yes — also untolerable. (In most contexts)

Forums already went downhill from the start zealous bandwagonists, such as us, started thinking this forum was built for any special purpose other than discussing. Your efforts are most likely futile, useless and ironically bland too. Threads with the same concept were already created before. More often than sometimes, we use the past as an exaggeration to claim change and rule over it because you were there. A measly excuse. This thread obviously exclaims "WE WANT DAMN REFORMS" when it was the time of Martial Law and total dictatorship.

More often than sometimes, we've always thought just because it was once there, it will always be there. Just because we've done it once in a clutch, means we can also do it in that clutch. No, it won't always be the same.

Lionex01
03-01-2016, 03:00 PM
For a full month of only lurking, this thread drew my attention. Not in any good way possible. Actually, Megazork made me realize this a long time ago.

Why do we all treat this forum as if it were any different from other game forums? It was made to discuss. Simple as that. Those bland and zealous copies as an excuse for a pathetic "concept" is what you would always, usually see in every game forum. Fights are inevitable, yes — also untolerable. (In most contexts)

Forums already went downhill from the start zealous bandwagonists, such as us, started thinking this forum was built for any special purpose other than discussing. Your efforts are most likely futile, useless and ironically bland too. Threads with the same concept were already created before. More often than sometimes, we use the past as an exaggeration to claim change and rule over it because you were there. A measly excuse. This thread obviously exclaims "WE WANT DAMN REFORMS" when it was the time of Martial Law and total dictatorship.

More often than sometimes, we've always thought just because it was once there, it will always be there. Just because we've done it once in a clutch, means we can also do it in that clutch. No, it won't always be the same.

wat .

_CM
03-01-2016, 03:09 PM
For a full month of only lurking, this thread drew my attention. Not in any good way possible. Actually, Megazork made me realize this a long time ago.

Why do we all treat this forum as if it were any different from other game forums? It was made to discuss. Simple as that. Those bland and zealous copies as an excuse for a pathetic "concept" is what you would always, usually see in every game forum. Fights are inevitable, yes — also untolerable. (In most contexts)

Forums already went downhill from the start zealous bandwagonists, such as us, started thinking this forum was built for any special purpose other than discussing. Your efforts are most likely futile, useless and ironically bland too. Threads with the same concept were already created before. More often than sometimes, we use the past as an exaggeration to claim change and rule over it because you were there. A measly excuse. This thread obviously exclaims "WE WANT DAMN REFORMS" when it was the time of Martial Law and total dictatorship.

More often than sometimes, we've always thought just because it was once there, it will always be there. Just because we've done it once in a clutch, means we can also do it in that clutch. No, it won't always be the same.


wat .

Ugh... If I got all the words right...

First paragraph(or something)- Hans is just reading what's happening; megazork made Hans realize something.

Second Paragraph- Forums is for discussing but we make our own concepts of what a forum is.

Third Paragraph- We started the forums with a different purpose rather than the actual purpose; we want to a change but efforts are useless.

Fourth Paragraph- We think what can be found will stay there to be found forever but will never stay there to be found forever.


Tada!

yoyotje2011
03-01-2016, 04:05 PM
What... I don't understand your problem to be quite frankly. I've been around for 3 years now (not always to be honest, though it has been long), and basically the only thing different from back then is that the spam and drama threads cut down a LOT. Like, you won't believe how much. Whenever I used to check "New Posts" I had the tendency to throw my computer right out the window and never look back at it again. The threads like "this guy scammed me" and "I'm quitting" and the famous forumer dramas... Those were the days.

However, this has changed. Whenever I look at "New Posts" there are actually threads that are interesting and that I want to reply to. Of course, there are still the "I got scammed" threads and such, but a lot less, and it's way easier to just ignore them. I think everyone should do that. Whenever you see a thread that you think is straight up pointless, don't go there and tell them, simply push the back button in your browser and scroll further. It works the same way with drop games by the way, if nobody visits them, there wouldn't be any drop games.
In a huge community like this, there is a very high chance of some people pointing pointless stuff. That's why there's such a thing as moderators, who, like you stated, perform great work. So what I'm trying to say is, it's a part of it, really.

TL;DR
The next time you see a pointless thread, simply ignore it instead of making the poster aware of the fact that his thread is pointless.

I'm absolutely convinced that if this happens, spam will cut down enormously. So instead of trying to treat the symptoms by trying to "Make Growtopia Great Again", try to find out what causes this discontence. Because I think Growtopia was pretty great to start off with.

Spotlight
03-01-2016, 07:39 PM
For a full month of only lurking, this thread drew my attention. Not in any good way possible. Actually, Megazork made me realize this a long time ago.

Why do we all treat this forum as if it were any different from other game forums? It was made to discuss. Simple as that. Those bland and zealous copies as an excuse for a pathetic "concept" is what you would always, usually see in every game forum. Fights are inevitable, yes — also untolerable. (In most contexts)

Forums already went downhill from the start zealous bandwagonists, such as us, started thinking this forum was built for any special purpose other than discussing. Your efforts are most likely futile, useless and ironically bland too. Threads with the same concept were already created before. More often than sometimes, we use the past as an exaggeration to claim change and rule over it because you were there. A measly excuse. This thread obviously exclaims "WE WANT DAMN REFORMS" when it was the time of Martial Law and total dictatorship.

More often than sometimes, we've always thought just because it was once there, it will always be there. Just because we've done it once in a clutch, means we can also do it in that clutch. No, it won't always be the same.

When you word it like that it does make a lot more sense. However, this is not the Toyota Tercel forums. These forums are for a video game, specifically a humorous video game. There should be some humor, there should be some argumentative debates as long as they do not get out of hand. Take Magicalfishy's threads for example. He made two threads asking about a forum rule, and they were both deleted for no reason. They were not posted at the same time, so they could not be classified as spam. He did not even receive a PM or infraction stating why his threads were deleted.

While I do agree these efforts will not be succesful, it is nice to look back to the old forums, and yes, things have changed drastically. Moderators are too worried about one or two threads posted in an incorrect subforum rather than taking care of all the trolls and kids that are way too young to be on here. I miss the intelligent debates that Shikaru took part in, and I miss the overall feeling of community.

I get that once a game gets bigger, the feeling of community will disappear, but there is no variety at all anymore. Everyone is either trying to "become famous" or troll. While there are still some interesting characters such as GummiBear64, 95% of the diverse people have left us, and for good reason if I'm honest. The forums just aren't fun anymore, even though they are forums for a video game, which is made solely for entertainment. With subforums such as "collaboration", "contests & giveaways", and "fan creations", it is not crazy to expect some humor, sense of community, or entertainment. However, the most entertaining thing that has happened in those subforums recently were Styx's giveaways, and he's gone now too.

Thank you for the intelligent words Hans, and it's nice to see you post again. I also do apologize for my giant wall of undecipherable text.

abt79
03-01-2016, 08:03 PM
When you word it like that it does make a lot more sense. However, this is not the Toyota Tercel forums. These forums are for a video game, specifically a humorous video game. There should be some humor, there should be some argumentative debates as long as they do not get out of hand. Take Magicalfishy's threads for example. He made two threads asking about a forum rule, and they were both deleted for no reason. They were not posted at the same time, so they could not be classified as spam. He did not even receive a PM or infraction stating why his threads were deleted.

While I do agree these efforts will not be succesful, it is nice to look back to the old forums, and yes, things have changed drastically. Moderators are to worried about one or two threads posted in an incorrect subforum rather than taking care of all the trolls and kids that are way too young to be on here. I miss the intelligent debates that Shikaru took part in, and I miss the overall feeling of community.

I get that once a game gets bigger, the feeling of community will disappear, but there is no variety at all anymore. Everyone is either trying to "become famous" or troll. While there are still some interesting characters such as GummiBear64, 95% of the diverse people have left us, and for good reason if I'm honest. The forums just aren't fun anymore, even though they are forums for a video game, which is made solely for entertainment. With subforums such as "collaboration", "contests & giveaways", and "fan creations", it is not crazy to expect some humor, sense of community, or entertainment. However, the most entertaining thing that has happened in those subforums recently were Styx's giveaways, and he's gone now too.

Thank you for the intelligent words Hans, and it's nice to see you post again. I also do apologize for my giant wall of undecipherable text.

The game isn't fun for a lot of people, not because the forums are any more awful than they ever were but because like all games Growtopia is boring to everyone eventually

Congrats on that Oscar btw

PiZaHuTt
03-01-2016, 08:54 PM
Welcome to the Downfall of the Forums.

No, mods. You're doing a great job, that's why I made SUPPORTDEV (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?247703-The-REVOLUTION/page2&p=1769428#post1769428) for heck's sake, I'm taking about the community. The community is what makes Growtopia - Growtopia! But I'm not talking about Growtopia, I'm talking about the Behind-The-Scenes of Growtopia, the forums.

The forums have gone downhill, when 2015 came, it became bland and boring, in 2013 and 2014 it was energetic and drama and friendliness everywhere! When it was 2015, it was straight and simple and bland. In 2016 it's still the same for me, bland and simple.

If you look in Areodax (a great Forumer and a good friend of mines)'s signature, it says this -

"Holy mother you can feel the forums going downhill. Unescessary posts, useless threads and forumers seeking attention. The mods could at least do something about this."

This is my feeling, MagicalFishy, again, a great Forumer. Said this in his quiting thread (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?295234-It-s-been-chill-dudes) before he came back -

"I am very upset with authority in the aspect that they do not try and search for new moderators to lead the community. This is taking a devastating toll on our community as a whole. Spammers, trolls, and people with absolutely no respect still get away with their crimes pretty much scotch free. Our opinions cannot be voiced, drama even in a civil manner cannot be caused, and simply bringing up the name of a banned player or scammer in a thread is considered outlawed. I always cared compassionately about the community, and I always wanted to help out the community in the largest way(s) possible. I always had the feeling of lacking power when I knew I could make a difference. But oh well, that's just a lame story about a kid who's upset and quitting the fourms right now. I may seem immature right now, but I do say that this break/final goodbye is what I need right now. I'll miss all of you very dearly."

I cleared all of that, now let's talk about this, GradeAUnderA style.

Threads - Posts - Stuff

To further evidence my and Areo's "Unnecessary Post" arguement, let's look for unnecessary posts - in the General Chat.

Here's a alert about scams. (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?311758-Scam-Worlds!) Which everybody knows, don't trust anybody you don't know, and don't even trust your friends. It's that simple. Also, wrong subforum.
the
A illumanti confrimed OMG!!1!1!1 dorito OMG mlg faze clan (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?310756-About-my-afking) thread. This is spam, very much spam. That meme is old as heck.

A 'so weird' thread. (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?311641-Lol-look-at-this). /idk and /wink at the same time? Woah! No Sherlock, just do /idk and ;).

You see! These threads are so out-of-placed and unnecessary, I don't care about your illumanti crap, I want to see real threads with detail.

Drama

Drama!

We all love drama, come on, we watch it on tv, we do it in our lives, drama is part of our lives! In 2013-2014 drama was everywhere and it was entertaining. Angrox? MySpice Cancer? Yeah! But in 2015 we only got Casinos and STYX, that was it. Without drama, the forums are bland, so yeah.

The Community

This is it - the community.

There are mini-mods everywhere you see, attention seekers and people raising their post count, that's the new community. Bland - simple - annoying. We only have a few 2013 Forumers, some 2014 Forumers, and a bunch of 2015-2016 Forumers, that's good! But they're so childish and immature I can't believe their mother let them join the forums. So listen up 2015-2016 Forumers, get mature, you won't be a mod if you keep asking to be, more attention will make your rep decrease, and at least give your posts some sense.

What does this mean?

Get your game up forums! Your idiocy and annoyance is why iCantDance got banned and why bluemtdew got cursed for a while. You guys are lowering the IQ of the whole street.

If you support this and want to change back the forums, and in regards of MagicalFishy - let's #MakeTheForumsGreatAgain - Yeah, that sounds cheesy as heck, but if your like me, put it in your siggy. And if you ever get to meet a mod or some sort, remember to say that.

Anyways, I let that out, so yeah. So I hope you agree with this, post your arguments down below, so anyways, have a great day. :hat:


Im with you on the jinimids. Players with like 10 posts and just joined telling people what to do.

ZZZebra94
03-01-2016, 09:59 PM
This is reason #16 why I quit Growtopia.

Christopher
03-01-2016, 10:50 PM
Bluemntdew got banned becomes he can't follow rules.

It's not hard to follow the rules ._.

abt79
03-02-2016, 12:53 AM
Bluemntdew got banned becomes he can't follow rules.

It's not hard to follow the rules ._.

He got banned for drama

Sad, he was one of like 7 forumers I liked

Spotlight
03-02-2016, 02:30 AM
The game isn't fun for a lot of people, not because the forums are any more awful than they ever were but because like all games Growtopia is boring to everyone eventually

Congrats on that Oscar btw

Teehee, thanks.
Spotlight was a very well made movie though.

abt79
03-02-2016, 02:51 AM
Teehee, thanks.
Spotlight was a very well made movie though.

Haven't seen it yet, but I plan to.

Between Batman, the Hulk, Doctor Manhattan, and Sabertooth, where can you go wrong?
Never thought I'd see a place where only the Hulk reference would be caught...maybe sabertooth actually

ianCSzz
03-02-2016, 11:55 AM
"Every generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it." There's a name for this sentiment. Juvenoia.

Hans
03-02-2016, 03:39 PM
When you word it like that it does make a lot more sense. However, this is not the Toyota Tercel forums. These forums are for a video game, specifically a humorous video game. There should be some humor, there should be some argumentative debates as long as they do not get out of hand. Take Magicalfishy's threads for example. He made two threads asking about a forum rule, and they were both deleted for no reason. They were not posted at the same time, so they could not be classified as spam. He did not even receive a PM or infraction stating why his threads were deleted.

While I do agree these efforts will not be succesful, it is nice to look back to the old forums, and yes, things have changed drastically. Moderators are to worried about one or two threads posted in an incorrect subforum rather than taking care of all the trolls and kids that are way too young to be on here. I miss the intelligent debates that Shikaru took part in, and I miss the overall feeling of community.

I get that once a game gets bigger, the feeling of community will disappear, but there is no variety at all anymore. Everyone is either trying to "become famous" or troll. While there are still some interesting characters such as GummiBear64, 95% of the diverse people have left us, and for good reason if I'm honest. The forums just aren't fun anymore, even though they are forums for a video game, which is made solely for entertainment. With subforums such as "collaboration", "contests & giveaways", and "fan creations", it is not crazy to expect some humor, sense of community, or entertainment. However, the most entertaining thing that has happened in those subforums recently were Styx's giveaways, and he's gone now too.

Thank you for the intelligent words Hans, and it's nice to see you post again. I also do apologize for my giant wall of undecipherable text.

I won't deny what you said, no. What you said is an obvious fact to be considered. This game is indeed a humorous indie game created by indie developers who seek to entertain people in a not-so-creepy yet fun way. However, the change that overtook this forum already overtook the game long before. It was pre-determined. We just sought out an explainable way to comprehend what overtook this forum and take change as a viable option whenever we felt like it would happen.

Pertaining the administration, I do not want to see a direct comment that moderators are "so busy". I'm tired of seeing those words everytime something happens. I agree that their current progress in their job may be labeled as a "wrong impression". Pertaining our debates, we could always hold debates. Such as how I held debates about certain topics hearing opinion from opinion, but nobody was that interested. But do not mind that. What matters is that we really can hold debates as long as there are no flaming, no illogical sense of saying something just for the sake of winning and most of all, as long as we do not create disturbance.

I just feel like that change isn't really an option for any of us anymore. Especially that the community have grown. Change will be only passive until we all learn to adapt to it. Only 'till then will it become optional for us.

Acrystic
03-04-2016, 04:20 PM
Welcome to the Downfall of the Forums.

No, mods. You're doing a great job, that's why I made SUPPORTDEV (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?247703-The-REVOLUTION/page2&p=1769428#post1769428) for heck's sake, I'm taking about the community. The community is what makes Growtopia - Growtopia! But I'm not talking about Growtopia, I'm talking about the Behind-The-Scenes of Growtopia, the forums.

The forums have gone downhill, when 2015 came, it became bland and boring, in 2013 and 2014 it was energetic and drama and friendliness everywhere! When it was 2015, it was straight and simple and bland. In 2016 it's still the same for me, bland and simple.

If you look in Areodax (a great Forumer and a good friend of mines)'s signature, it says this -

"Holy mother you can feel the forums going downhill. Unescessary posts, useless threads and forumers seeking attention. The mods could at least do something about this."

This is my feeling, MagicalFishy, again, a great Forumer. Said this in his quiting thread (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?295234-It-s-been-chill-dudes) before he came back -

"I am very upset with authority in the aspect that they do not try and search for new moderators to lead the community. This is taking a devastating toll on our community as a whole. Spammers, trolls, and people with absolutely no respect still get away with their crimes pretty much scotch free. Our opinions cannot be voiced, drama even in a civil manner cannot be caused, and simply bringing up the name of a banned player or scammer in a thread is considered outlawed. I always cared compassionately about the community, and I always wanted to help out the community in the largest way(s) possible. I always had the feeling of lacking power when I knew I could make a difference. But oh well, that's just a lame story about a kid who's upset and quitting the fourms right now. I may seem immature right now, but I do say that this break/final goodbye is what I need right now. I'll miss all of you very dearly."

I cleared all of that, now let's talk about this, GradeAUnderA style.

Threads - Posts - Stuff

To further evidence my and Areo's "Unnecessary Post" arguement, let's look for unnecessary posts - in the General Chat.

Here's a alert about scams. (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?311758-Scam-Worlds!) Which everybody knows, don't trust anybody you don't know, and don't even trust your friends. It's that simple. Also, wrong subforum.

A illumanti confrimed OMG!!1!1!1 dorito OMG mlg faze clan (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?310756-About-my-afking) thread. This is spam, very much spam. That meme is old as heck.

A 'so weird' thread. (http://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?311641-Lol-look-at-this). /idk and /wink at the same time? Woah! No Sherlock, just do /idk and ;).

You see! These threads are so out-of-placed and unnecessary, I don't care about your illumanti crap, I want to see real threads with detail.

Drama

Drama!

We all love drama, come on, we watch it on tv, we do it in our lives, drama is part of our lives! In 2013-2014 drama was everywhere and it was entertaining. Angrox? MySpice Cancer? Yeah! But in 2015 we only got Casinos and STYX, that was it. Without drama, the forums are bland, so yeah.

The Community

This is it - the community.

There are mini-mods everywhere you see, attention seekers and people raising their post count, that's the new community. Bland - simple - annoying. We only have a few 2013 Forumers, some 2014 Forumers, and a bunch of 2015-2016 Forumers, that's good! But they're so childish and immature I can't believe their mother let them join the forums. So listen up 2015-2016 Forumers, get mature, you won't be a mod if you keep asking to be, more attention will make your rep decrease, and at least give your posts some sense.

What does this mean?

Get your game up forums! Your idiocy and annoyance is why iCantDance got banned and why bluemtdew got cursed for a while. You guys are lowering the IQ of the whole street.

If you support this and want to change back the forums, and in regards of MagicalFishy - let's #MakeTheForumsGreatAgain - Yeah, that sounds cheesy as heck, but if your like me, put it in your siggy. And if you ever get to meet a mod or some sort, remember to say that.

Anyways, I let that out, so yeah. So I hope you agree with this, post your arguments down below, so anyways, have a great day. :hat:



Correct, I totally agree -.-

TheArctic
03-04-2016, 04:23 PM
TK69 Caused drama, but hes banned...

michaelhans10
03-04-2016, 04:33 PM
I just wish it come back to old days, there's a mini mods, full hangout. Fun is fun..
Remember meh 2014-2013-2015 forumers.

I just remember how fun we are in the past year.

Now forum are so Boooooooooooring...

Open snapchat , take pic , open forum, growtopia abit.
Rewind.
*my opinions :)