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Spotlight
03-30-2016, 05:19 PM
Yo guys, I'm looking to build a new computer soon, and I need it to be able to beat an Alienware I5 13" laptop.
I'm looking for a CPU around $80 and a GPU around $130.
The Intel Pentium G3258 looks amazing for $70, but it only has two cores.
I haven't looked at any particular graphics card yet, but I know there are lots of good ones.

Leave your suggestions below, thansk guys.

Lain
03-30-2016, 07:12 PM
The Athlon x4 860k is exactly 80 dollars and is a quad core processor. It should beat the dual core i5 featured in some alienware laptops on multicore performance. For the GPU there's the R7 370, 750ti, or the GTX 950.

craft3d
03-30-2016, 07:31 PM
Yo guys, I'm looking to build a new computer soon, and I need it to be able to beat an Alienware I5 13" laptop.
I'm looking for a CPU around $80 and a GPU around $130.
The Intel Pentium G3258 looks amazing for $70, but it only has two cores.
I haven't looked at any particular graphics card yet, but I know there are lots of good ones.

Leave your suggestions below, thansk guys.

Wait wait, show me a link to the laptop. I mean, the Pentium is good but what Lain was saying about the X4 860k is the better choice.

The GTX 950 or a used 760 (trust me, it's possible) will be great for gaming.

peck
03-30-2016, 08:18 PM
AMD has a better market on budget cpu's than intel. It's when you go above $120 when intel becomes the better choice.

craft3d
03-30-2016, 11:26 PM
I'd recommend Intel over AMD in every situation.

CPU: i3-6100
GPU: GT 750

i3 6100 is NOT worth the price you're paying, and AMD is way better for the price (under 80 dollars).

Also, the GPU should be a 750 Ti, it is so much better than the 750.

Juxtapose
03-31-2016, 12:39 AM
You can't beat Alienware with 80$ CPU and 130$ GPU and don't buy AMD

Lain
03-31-2016, 01:27 AM
You can't beat Alienware with 80$ CPU and 130$ GPU and don't buy AMD

Yes you can. A 130$ GPU will destroy a 1000$ Alienware laptop. The Alienware laptop has a mobile graphics card, and many full size GPUs under 150 can beat the hell out of it. As for the processor most of the time it's just a dual core with hyperthreading at like 2GHz. A full sized desktop processor just destroys it.

Oh yeah amd master race :VVVVVVV

Juxtapose
03-31-2016, 01:53 PM
Yes you can. A 130$ GPU will destroy a 1000$ Alienware laptop. The Alienware laptop has a mobile graphics card, and many full size GPUs under 150 can beat the hell out of it. As for the processor most of the time it's just a dual core with hyperthreading at like 2GHz. A full sized desktop processor just destroys it.

Oh yeah amd master race :VVVVVVV
Alienware 15 is 2000$ and also AMD is quickly overheat,my first cup was amd and I regret buying it,just like they say more expensive more better

Lain
03-31-2016, 06:09 PM
Alienware 15 is 2000$ and also AMD is quickly overheat,my first cup was amd and I regret buying it,just like they say more expensive more better

If it quickly overheats you're doing something wrong or it's in a laptop. If you have one of these it won't overheat
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craft3d
03-31-2016, 06:30 PM
Alienware 15 is 2000$ and also AMD is quickly overheat,my first cup was amd and I regret buying it,just like they say more expensive more better

Not in most cases, I mean it will be better but it will not always be worth the price.

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If it quickly overheats you're doing something wrong or it's in a laptop. If you have one of these it won't overheat
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>realizes forgot thermal paste
>chip overheats
>blames AMD for bad thermal dissipation
>*sniff*

peck
03-31-2016, 06:32 PM
If it quickly overheats you're doing something wrong or it's in a laptop. If you have one of these it won't overheat
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This pretty much.

My old fx-6300 ran 28c idle and 50c on hard use, decent temperature considering it was using the stock cooler with fresh thermal paste.

craft3d
03-31-2016, 10:59 PM
This pretty much.

My old fx-6300 ran 28c idle and 50c on hard use, decent temperature considering it was using the stock cooler with fresh thermal paste.

Wow, did you have the CPU overclocked? What types of games or test did you use with it?

Spotlight
03-31-2016, 11:55 PM
Alienware 15 is 2000$ and also AMD is quickly overheat,my first cup was amd and I regret buying it,just like they say more expensive more better

The Alienware in question is $1,000.
I'm thinking of going with a 750ti and a quad core AMD.

craft3d
04-01-2016, 12:53 AM
The Alienware in question is $1,000.
I'm thinking of going with a 750ti and a quad core AMD.

You should, although if you can an i3 would be a good start if you wanted to upgrade from your first motherboard.

Lain
04-01-2016, 02:17 AM
The Alienware in question is $1,000.
I'm thinking of going with a 750ti and a quad core AMD.

If your PSU can support it, go with an R7 370 instead of the 750. The 370 beats a 750ti by about 5 FPS in most games and costs only about 10 dollars more.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150735&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Video+Cards+-+AMD%2FATI-_-N82E16814150735&gclid=CMvule2v7MsCFYZefgodzRkEhQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

craft3d
04-01-2016, 03:23 AM
If your PSU can support it, go with an R7 370 instead of the 750. The 370 beats a 750ti by about 5 FPS in most games and costs only about 10 dollars more.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150735&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Video+Cards+-+AMD%2FATI-_-N82E16814150735&gclid=CMvule2v7MsCFYZefgodzRkEhQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

Is 5 FPS worth $10? I mean, I don't know. If you can OC a 750 Ti, than it'll be the same or better, for cheaper.

Lain
04-01-2016, 04:15 AM
Is 5 FPS worth $10? I mean, I don't know. If you can OC a 750 Ti, than it'll be the same or better, for cheaper.

Well, that adds room to ramp up the settings without diving into FPS hell.

craft3d
04-01-2016, 06:54 AM
Well, that adds room to ramp up the settings without diving into FPS hell.

But a 750 Ti is still as capable as an R7 370, just not as fast, as it is slightly older.

Also, isn't the 370 just a faster 260x?

Festivity
04-01-2016, 08:33 AM
An i3 is a very cheap and very solid processor, I use an i3-3240 and it is amazing. Anyways, get an i3 and for the GPU, I recommend you getting the GTX 750 ti as it only costed me 120 dollars, if you have extra budget, you could buy a GTX 950, slightly better than the GTX 750 ti.

Lain
04-01-2016, 06:37 PM
But a 750 Ti is still as capable as an R7 370, just not as fast, as it is slightly older.

Also, isn't the 370 just a faster 260x?

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craft3d
04-01-2016, 08:52 PM
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OK, but for one of them, I feel like 1440p is a very unrealistic scenario for this card, and they never specified if this was reference or some manufacturers card.

craft3d
04-01-2016, 09:18 PM
Attachments

Also, this is off topic but have you ever had a Seagate 2 TB drive before?

craft3d
04-03-2016, 05:22 PM
Seagate is better known for SSD than HDD.

Ermm... they don't have SSDs. Maybe you're thinking of Samsung which was "bought" (need confirmation) by Seagate.

Festivity
04-04-2016, 06:29 AM
Ermm... they don't have SSDs. Maybe you're thinking of Samsung which was "bought" (need confirmation) by Seagate.

But they do have SSHDs.
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Lain
04-04-2016, 11:06 PM
OK, but for one of them, I feel like 1440p is a very unrealistic scenario for this card, and they never specified if this was reference or some manufacturers card.
They're all 1080p benchmarks.

Also, this is off topic but have you ever had a Seagate 2 TB drive before?

I've had the 1TB drives. Why do you ask?

YellowPepper
04-04-2016, 11:10 PM
I wish I could build computers, you guys are lucky.

craft3d
04-05-2016, 12:21 AM
They're all 1080p benchmarks.


I've had the 1TB drives. Why do you ask?

I swear that one of them said 1440p, maybe I was just really tired, sorry if I was confusing you.

I also was wondering because I have a 2 TB one and I wanted some opinions to see if I should stay with it or upgrade to a more reliable one.

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But they do have SSHDs.
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SSHDs =/= SSDs.

I mean, Seagate DISTRIBUTES some of Samsung's SSDs, I guess.

Lain
04-05-2016, 01:34 AM
I swear that one of them said 1440p, maybe I was just really tired, sorry if I was confusing you.

I also was wondering because I have a 2 TB one and I wanted some opinions to see if I should stay with it or upgrade to a more reliable one.

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SSHDs =/= SSDs.

I mean, Seagate DISTRIBUTES some of Samsung's SSDs, I guess.

You should stay with it until it starts to show signs of failure. Don't fix what isn't broken.

craft3d
04-05-2016, 02:56 AM
You should stay with it until it starts to show signs of failure. Don't fix what isn't broken.

Yep, but I'm just worried that if I should backup or wait, I mean it has a life of 2-3 years and I frankly don't want that small operation time.

OnlySight
04-05-2016, 02:59 AM
AMD has a better market on budget cpu's than intel. It's when you go above $120 when intel becomes the better choice.

If you are on "Gaming" side, choose AMD. If you are on "Edit" side, choose Intel.

craft3d
04-05-2016, 03:11 AM
If you are on "Gaming" side, choose AMD. If you are on "Edit" side, choose Intel.

Gaming & Editing can be both AMD and Intel, but this all depends at how fast and how patient you are.

Gaming usually wins for Intel but will lose sometimes in the lower end

Editing depends on if the application is multi thread encoded or not, usually multi threaded apps benefit from AMD but non multi threaded ones make AMD suffer in times.

It all depends

OnlySight
04-05-2016, 03:56 AM
Gaming & Editing can be both AMD and Intel, but this all depends at how fast and how patient you are.

Gaming usually wins for Intel but will lose sometimes in the lower end

Editing depends on if the application is multi thread encoded or not, usually multi threaded apps benefit from AMD but non multi threaded ones make AMD suffer in times.

It all depends

But their is Graphical advantage on AMD cpu's right?

COLTONROCKO
04-05-2016, 04:39 AM
Lain is right. Besides what are you planning to do with your computer in the first place? I decided with my build I wanted to do some editing while playing some games under 500 dollars in general and got a i5-4660 and a R9 380X with 16gb of RAM.

AMD is not a bad CPU at all, it is great for a low budget. Besides how did your card over heat? What were you doing anyways, I had a AMD cpu, which wasn't as good as what Lain said and it was perfectly fine until I rendered a video at 1080p.

Honestly, if I were to go to GPU, I would suggest a 950 over a 750ti just because it has more efficient memory clock speed than the 750ti. The 950 is double the pixel rate as the 750ti and is overall a better card. Here is my resource.

GTX 950 VS 750TI (http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-950-vs-GeForce-GTX-750-Ti)

Intel vs AMD CPUS

Intel - Pros


[*=left]"Very controlled consumption, resulting in increased efficiency and energy savings in the long term.
[*=left]Lower working temperatures.
[*=left]Higher IPC (performance per clock cycle), as this means greater performance per core.
[*=left]HyperThreading Technology in Core i3 and higher, which allows handling two threads per core."


Intel Cons -


[*=left]High prices.
[*=left]It doesn’t offer CPUs with real four cores in the basic range.
[*=left]Low performance in games with intensive use of multithreading, such as Crysis 3.
[*=left]They don’t come with unlocked multiplier


AMD PROS



[*=left]Very attractive prices and contents.
[*=left]Good performance in multithreaded applications.
[*=left]Processors up to six cores in the low range.
[*=left]A Turbo Mode which slightly increases the working frequency.
[*=left]Unlocked multiplier, it lets you overclock easily.


AMD CONS



[*=left]Consumption rates and TDPs higher than the competition.
[*=left]They have a lower IPC, which results in a worse performance in games that do not make use in more than one or two cores.
[*=left]The heat dissipator series is very poor.



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The Athlon x4 860k is exactly 80 dollars and is a quad core processor. It should beat the dual core i5 featured in some alienware laptops on multicore performance. For the GPU there's the R7 370, 750ti, or the GTX 950.


Yes, the best card as I can find with AMD so far.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-6300-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-860K

craft3d
04-06-2016, 05:36 AM
But their is Graphical advantage on AMD cpu's right?

Not always, but they do have some good GPUs. They are also called GPUs, not CPUs,