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Thread: Enhancing the Sprite Batcher to 3D

  1. #1
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    May 2007

    Default Enhancing the Sprite Batcher to 3D

    I want to be able to use CL_Sprite, CL_Image, CL_Font in a 3d environment.

    For example, Draw "Hello World" at an angle above an object in the distance.

    To do this, I modify the modelview matrix to reposition the model view, so you can draw the image as normal

    The problem is that the CL_SpriteRenderBatch does not handle the Z direction in the model view matrix.

    This was intentional, to make the batch rendering as fast as possible.

    My initial idea was do:

    In: void CL_SpriteRenderBatch::modelview_changed(const CL_Mat4f &new_modelview)
    Add: modelview_2d = modelview.is_2d();

    Add function:
    inline CL_Vec3f CL_SpriteRenderBatch::to_position_3d(float x, float y) const
    return CL_Vec3f(
    modelview.matrix[0*4+0]*x + modelview.matrix[1*4+0]*y modelview.matrix[3*4+0],
    modelview.matrix[0*4+1]*x + modelview.matrix[1*4+1]*y modelview.matrix[3*4+1],
    modelview.matrix[0*4+2]*x + modelview.matrix[1*4+2]*y modelview.matrix[3*4+2]);

    (This is an optimised version of "modelview * CL_Vec4f(x, y, 0.0f, 1.0f)" )

    And in CL_SpriteRenderBatch::draw_image() etc
    if (modelview_2d)
    vertices[position+0].position = to_position(dest.left,;
    vertices[position+0].position = to_position_3d(dest.left,;

    But it has been argued, that the extra "if (modelview_2d)" comparision would be a significant slow-down when 10000's of calls are made to the function.


    Create a CL_Image_3d(float x, float y, float z) that natively batches via a Render3DBatcher. Thus avoiding continiously modifing the rotation matrix

    Inherit the existing CL_Sprite to form CL_Sprite3D to contain support for drawing an batching to a 3d environment.

    The same with CL_Font ... Create a CL_Font3D

    But should this be contained within the ClanLib library, or in the external application?

    Any thoughts?

  2. #2
    ClanLib Developer
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    May 2007


    I have had second thoughts about drawing sprites, images and font to a 3d environment.

    Although, the above suggestion should work, In practice, it is not the most optimum method. This is because the ModelView matrix would need positioning (in the application) before each draw. This would be very slow in a complex environment.

    I now recommend the following.

    External to clanlib, create the following:
    Port the clanDisplay/2D code to Display/3D code. Adding the “z” position to each function (Including CL_Draw, CL_Sprite, CL_Font (all types) and CL_Image).

    If that is successful, it can either be incorporated into clanDisplay (as clanDisplay/3D), or as a clan3D library (external or internal to the main clanlib source packages).

    In the future, we could look at generic model classes - Unless there is a license with a friendly licence out there already to do it. Note Ogre3d has changed their license

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